Interview - GnosticInformant Ammon Hillman - Medea Medusa Medicine

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• Georgian queen from the late bronze age who was an immigrant from Libya. She came to arrive in Georgia while on an expedition with an Egyptian general. [17:25]
• It is stated that the origin of Greek medicine comes from her and her family. They conducted human experiments via polypharmacy leading to the development of antidotes. The greek root for medicine is within the name Medea. [18:07]
• Founder of the Magi, and leads a group of 12 other scythian women who control and prepare all of her drugs and botanicals for her experiments. [19:15]
• Went to Italy and healed a man bitten by a marsh snake via an antidote. This led to the establishment of a temple to Angitia and her worship as a goddess. [19:45] Silius Italicus identifies Angitia as Medea
• Medea's drugs came from her κόλπος (vagina) [23:03]

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welcome back to the gnostic informant and you are about to attain true gnosis and i'm with dr Ammon and you have some pretty interesting you your studies in the new testament in the ancient greek mythology and the origins of the mysteries goes pretty deep if i'm not mistaken you know it comes through the medicine very concrete right through the medicine i'm the guy who was studying untranslated works at galen that have to do with all the drugs that they're using and the ceremonies that they're having so that's i come to it from a man of reason standpoint and so yeah interesting so i want to start off with i was listening to another podcast of that you were in with another gentleman it was a really really interesting show and you guys were discussing a verse in mark in the gospel of mark where it talks about the agony in the garden do you want to take us through basically what you what what what the greek says what you found out about this where you're going what what what is it that you see when you when you when you're looking at this sure so i saw that naked boy that was there with him so jesus is in this public park at four o'clock in the morning when he gets arrested with the naked boy and the text says twice the kid was naked so and it says that he was wrapped in a syndome which in greek is i came at that from the you know it's just a linen wrap right but where i had seen it in context was in the context of applying drugs to self-made incisions so we've got these people that galen is writing for because he's talking about all the antidotes they're using and you know he's even talking about stuff that nero does nero is a whack job but anyway they take the linen bandage and they impregnate it with a drug or an antidote and then they make slits in their skin and cover it with that bandage and that is part of several different cult mysteries and yeah there's a whole there's a whole vocabulary that builds up i thought of something real quick before we before we get into this i wanna let me just read the verse just in case just in case anybody out there has no idea what we're talking about yeah let's just get everybody on the same page so they all fled they all left him and fled now a young man followed him wearing nothing but a linen cloth about his body they seized him but he left the cloth behind and ran off naked and any church you go to they just read past this like it didn't even happen who is this young boy why is he naked why is he wearing a linen cloth and what happens after this you you it literally goes to the sanhedrin's the next the next the next verse he's in court they don't talk about it yeah abrupt transition from partying in a you know in a cemetery to at two to four a.m and to have the cops bust busted up yeah they got one of them got his ear you know right it got wild right and people are people are taking off yeah and by the way the greek text says twice that boy is naked it emphasizes the fact that he's naked and he's a neonice ghost man this is a kid who shouldn't be housed this is a kid who shouldn't be out i mean you only read about this stuff and like guys like cyprian coming out of the cemetery with the viper venom drooling out of his butt and the prostitutes running after him right whereas this is crazy explain this what what is what smith is that you're talking about oh it's not a myth it's saint cyprian he was infamous for having you know come back to the true path after having taken a detour with some prostitutes in a cemetery where they were using drugs that were drooling out his bum when they caught him yeah and when was this yeah when was this oh don't get into the date cyprian was like third century or something okay okay yeah so this is so you think this is sort of a similar situation where they're doing some sort of right is that what you're getting at well you know the mention of the cop and the fact that yeah he's a christos right so here let me just reset the let me just reset the stage christos what is the christos you guys i've watched some of your podcasts you guys are not going to know classes are not they can be pinned down on it you can grab one like rock and you can say hey what does this word come from right christos comes from the verb creo and everybody jumps on and says anointed messiah yet no no look at the very bottom go back to the victorians go to alice in wonderland right alice the alice who the editor of the oxford greek lexicon which is this beautiful victorian i mean it's just this thing's a masterpiece i gotta show you this online you gotta learn greek and i gotta show you this online yeah anyway in that definition for feel you'll notice right at the bottom where the oldest core is it says this word means to be struck by the gadfly to be struck by the gadfly the oysters in greek to be struck by the oysters and the greeks have something if you know the sybils which we all do we all read enoch who's who's uh the son of god right son of man anyway so i we we know that the fistos is the one who's the got the oyster mania the sybil right the civil prophesized by oystermania this it's the strike of the gadfly what is that yeah well you know you got an insect that lands on the butt of the cow and bites it and the cow's like right and that's oysters that's oysters now in on the civilian inn oysters is the poison from the eos the the scythians make and put on their arrows and they're always kicking everybody's butt with these things they're they're so good they become the police force and athens eventually and they kill the romans and take a standard anyway but they use this poison this oyster in the vocabulary they they use it within right in order to induce a prophetic stage in the in the person to have them be filled i'm a i'm a graduate student just freshly minted and i'm working with a chicago excavation in tel megiddo in israel the site of armageddon right so solomon has a weigh station there where he taxes everybody right and underneath it we're excavating and i'm working for that team i was there for over a year i'm working for that team just doing grunt work getting my getting my feet wet and i'm sleeping at nights in a caravan group of you know trailers off of the palace of ahab which is up yonder from tel megiddo and so we're sleeping there you know jezebel's the phoenician queen ryan you know jezebel you know oh yeah worship of a start and all yeah but all worship all that yeah yeah so we uncovered there our team was the one that uncovered the floor of the canaanite temple that sits below all of the way station stuff and on that it's a circular temple and on that temple floor these prophetic priestesses would do their thing the my introduction to tel megiddo and the process of armageddon was intense and allowed me to see that there was his history in every in every place we were literally sleeping in the vineyard of jezebel who is doing something called in the in the septuagint is called calling down the fire of uranus right heaven yeah yeah but that was also a god in greek mythology yeah yeah and if you go back and look at the septuagint the word that he says is the heaven is the stereo he makes it in the beginning and it's most people don't know about the s t r root s t r root from words like oysters and from words like saturnus that these are part of a family these are part of a family a linguistic family that shows itself in the orphic and magic chaldean work so that you you can see you can see a strain and linguistically that's what i do just to introduce myself that's what i do is i follow those linguistic strains anyway the stereo the or the stereo that is in the first book of the septuagint is a virgin and if you look it up if you look it up through the victorian scholars you can see and the german scholars from the early 1900s were good too you can see the orphic influences on what you and i call the jewish holy writings so what do you do with that yeah what's the question right yeah i mean i i've i've come to in my own digging or research whatever you want to call it i'm starting to notice that the there's no lines between these different religious moves like judaism isn't separate from any other of the roman religion they're all sort of borrowing from each other they're all trans they're all trading with each other these ideas are universal they're not it's not like greek mythology is over here and judaism is over here we you have these mysterious these rights these rituals these agricultural myths and they're they're being passed down because like you said from the chaldeans or inner europeans schedules whoever and they're ending up in these myths in these scriptures and you see them and they relate to each other the question is what is the sort of what what's in the middle what's the core of all this that's that's what everyone's trying to get to does that make sense yeah it does why is synagogue a greek word right i stood in a synagogue in northern israel from the second century bc so don't get smart it's bc right and what was there a zodiac yeah oh yeah and what was written on the zodiac it was labeled it was greek there wasn't a lick of hebrew in the place and i try to remind my students my seminarians all the time i try to remind them hey you got to realize that greek is everywhere that there is no hebrew you're not looking at hebrew that's why all of these documents are in greek and it's been that way for a long time right and if you want to look at the reason you can talk to him but you know all that history and you know how the how the coin a spreads and whatnot would you say that alexander the great sort of started that i yeah but you know yes i would i would and i would tell an incoming freshman class you know that's exact that's how that's why greek is the common language but you see old stuff i see old greek that's as far as as far as spain yeah right and and and mycenae and i had the pleasure of working with emma bennett who cracked the linear b and so i had a chance to look at mycenean mycenaean greek and you wouldn't believe i mean how wide spread you think it's just on an island no no no it's so people are often confused they think this world this world exists this biblical world what is the biblical world you know it's like fairyland yeah no no no linear b when you look at linear b if i'm not mistake i might because maybe i'm confusing with linear a because i'm not an expert in this but it almost looks like the egyptian hieroglyphics in a weird way if i'm not mistaken yeah it doesn't look yeah you got you're less scripty definitely yeah right so yeah you're dealing with you know more pictogramish kind of things yeah now but there's a system to it and all you have to do is find cipher and figure it out he did and it was brilliant the way that's amazing stuff right there but the word medea okay yeah let's get into that medea is in is in yeah just my city just like it is an etruscan just like it is an etruscan medea is the anointer of jason and then another myth she her and jason are arguing because she killed his family members and then she begs her to have him back and she's like no you should have loved them while they were alive she's like she they make whoever that's euripides by the way euripides medea they're making her out to look like some like demonic entity in that one but in another in the agra nautica she anoints jason that's how it becomes the hero but what is this medea medusa it's like you see the symbol of medical it's like it's got the snakes around it looks like the cross with this the serpent is the rod of asclepius what is all this symbolism with serpents and medical and media and is there something yeah yeah it's the history of the most genius woman ever list that ever lived in my opinion in my humble opinion so you're talking about late bronze age you're talking about a queen and there's there are epics we know that there are ethics written before homer that are are composed i should say that are about medea medea is the central subject of them so she's this georgian queen she's not native to georgia right so we're on the east coast of the black sea she's not she's she's an immigrant supposedly from libya who was on an expedition with some general egyptian general i forget his name anyway they end up in georgia and anyway she her family is involved in taking people and experimenting with drugs on those people so they're developing antidotes and they're late there's no later greek author i found two that talk about how this is the origin really of medicine this whole dot and antidote thing this is what medicine comes from so it's fitting that her name is medea right and has the root of medicine in it which by the way is really from mod people think it's from med which it is but vowels don't mean anything right it's the cons it's the consonants that make the concepts yeah and i i try to tell every all of my greek students i try to tell them right when i start everything is being derived in ancient greek from the verbs so if you master the action of the verbs then you can understand what they're talking about with the nouns and the adjectives to follow so medea there we get our word medicine just from her name she is the supposed founder of the magi she has this train of 12 scythian women who control all of her drugs botanicals and whatnot and prepare for her what she needs to be prepared her family is experimenting you could call her you could say she's the mother of alchemy more than that but you know she went to italy it's funny she went to italy and there was a dude there who had been bitten by one of the marsh snakes and she was a foreigner and but they recognized right away what was going on and they gave him an antidote and then the people were so enamored of her that they asked her to stay and be involved in the community and ultimately what came out was a temple was a temple to angitia angitia and that means snake or serpent and it's a famous it's a famous thing now is there is there a connection with her and medusa who has snakes in her hair yeah yeah what are the medusa medusa are guardians right they're temple guardians and you see this with medusai dragons and dogs kuanaes they call them hounds they're classes of temple guardian and the medusai whose name literally means guardian or the judge of a place who executes its hoikas it's it's running so they're they're temple guardians you see these in the iphigenia towers and euripides that orestes can't he's a murderer and he can't they don't worry about him being unbound because he's being watched by those with the feathers the medusa with the feathers they've got the arrows with that toxin that'll paralyze you so so is there and now you mentioned these guardians and and right away i thought a herodotus where he talks about there's because you're we're you're talking about georgia sort of being where scythians are and he derives talks about there being gold guarding griffins up there where does that come from where is he yeah yeah he's he's going mystery and miraculous because you find the griffins and you with the sphinxes the sphinxes yeah yeah and what is the black sphinx we have in the in the the place that i really think you could blow this up to show people what it is in concrete terms it to bring the myth down to the to the level of the history is where we have in the pgm the papyri greikai magikai the magical papyri and in that my professor by the way at university of wisconsin was one of the translators he did all the medical incantations incantations and he was the first to tell me this translation is terrible because it's it's difficult it's difficult subject matter anyway there's a black sphinx in there who takes a scroll with the burning purple written on it and inserts it inserts it into her vagina while forming her paid astaya she's got a little boy with her and he's involved in the right that involves licking off the burning purple once she removes it from the scroll from her vagina from her corpus it's it's an ancient act they said madea took her drugs from her copos which is her vagina so yeah there's a hole where where what papyrus or what where is this is there any physical copy is this being orally told where do we find this where does this come from if you want the black sphinx with her vagina and the scroll you will go to the pgm and book four it's right next to the the hymn to the moon because we are worshiping diana the d1i yeah of course it's orphan orpheus was a student orpheus works for medea right yeah most people don't realize that orpheus worked for medea i think i have a copy of that him there's a bunch of hymns to the moon him to the sun him to demeter him to yeah no you're right yeah and the orphic hymns and the orphic hymns it's good you have those yeah because that's where we have the first attestation of the sotera yeah it's a it's a female it's a female yes it's that isn't it i'm not my thinking isn't it demeter no uh it is the combination the the combination of the correct mother so demeter if you want to say them or there the correct mother with the with the yes okay so the court it's the combination of the correct mother with the oysters which it uses all the time you'll see it's translated as mania or something with the oysters using midwife who is the type of the diwana she has the po it's mycenaean she has the poison wanasa is a queen right she is she's literally the dia the deowanasa the queen goddess you see her in a form in the middle ages 1331 to be precise as aradia the etruscans call her the aradia or the aradewa and so who is this goddess yeah is it is it demeter yes is she involved in the mystery with the burning off the mortality you take that boy and you burn them up they did a lot of pristos yeah so i wanted to get you on here because i i you have a type of mind where you you're in all these areas like me so let's let's slow this down for a second some people are probably like what the expletive are these guys talking about all right there is this there is a myth about demeter it is about persephone being taken down to hades oh i'm sorry i say hate it's it's 80s right am i saying yeah hades i say hey okay she's gonna take it on the hades and demeter as you know she's she's upset and she wants to get her back well she ends up in a town with these people who go to her and they say will you nurse this child for us and she says okay fine i'll nurse the child for you then she wants to make this child into a god and she says that he is the christos of the gods the anointed of the gods which is in the middle of nowhere she says this and then she starts burning him at night the weirdest thing you'll ever read in your entire life but i want to hear what you think about this yeah yeah you know you've got to have that essence it's the hymen man we translate haima's blood but in the in the ezekiel for example we know that the hyma is the ejaculate that's that stuff that that 12 year old girl wants that large egyptian man to to squirt on her now i'm quoting ezekiel so don't get all youtube censorious with me you know what i mean because that's right out of the bible so yeah she's burning off his mortality and there's she's transferring that jaime to him now why is that why why is she calling the chris why should she call him the messiah of the gods well what's the point of that yeah because what is the mystery right christianity is a mystery everybody knows that and they acknowledge that pope leo came out and said ignore that boy he was cousin and mary's drugs sex drugs are forgiven was that the fifth century i think the fifth to the sixth slow down so we're at mysteries right yeah and pope leo comes out and he answers the question because people are wondering about the naked boy and he answers it by saying it was a cousin so it's solved and mary magdalene has officially pardoned for her possession of sex drugs he says that when did this no you didn't know did you know about mary's dildo did you know about her i did not know this where is this oh my god she pulls it out and uses it on jesus where is it where is this written down it's in the bible nobody reads the bible anymore the alabaster the alabastrian right right the the no it's the container which you do this to to create friction with the oil you rub the oil on it right and we translate that into english as break which makes no sense which makes no no sense we go to this version real quick so we can again yeah yeah let me finish yeah if you want to go to the go to it yeah the yeah so she she takes the ointment anyway how do we know that it's okay aristophanes you know the comedian the greek comedian yeah yeah yeah he trots out a kinesius whose name means i don't know if i can say this on youtube expletive yeah you can say it okay his name means expletive and his wife's name means juicy so so he you know she's trying to she's this is the lysistrata she's not having sex with him and she comes out on the stage to try to get her demands met and she's tempting him you know with the alabastrin that's there and because the alabaster uses sex and sexual rights it's a it's a dildo-shaped container that at times they just called the marble okay the marble nonis does this when he's talking about mary notices this guy fifth sixth century who writes in greek about a paraphrase of the gospel of john and in the gospel of john he talks about mary's alabaster and he has this wonderful scene where she uses it on jesus and he ejaculates and she cleans him up with her hair yeah you might see you might see that it says her hair is sexy by the way wait but before we get there this is an o fight this is an o fight practice of using the semen as the sacred uh communion substance and they put it in their hair i'm not kidding you well before anybody starts before you guys click away from this video because you're just like what the hell are you talking about there actually is documentation of early christian sex and denominations such as the nasines some of the gnostics some of the valentinians where it i mean this is coming from rna irenaeus and other people who are accusing them as being heretics but take it is with a grain of salt it does say that they are doing these weird rights that you just described and neil it says it in the bible they're eating semen and all that stuff it says it in the bible in the canonical it says in the canonical new testament it's a revelation what do those churches doing yes they're following nicholas their fault their their fault they're following the guy that's what i was getting at the nicolasians these are the ones in the books against all recruiting all heresies it says the nicolasians were doing these weird sexual rights eating semen and which they call the way of cain jude calls it and and peter calls it the way of cain well the reason why i wanted to say that just wanted to establish that there is this is a thing that is being talked about already now now with that being said established where do you see this in mark though or in any of the gospels that's why okay so and john and john he writes about mary brings out the alabastron right which is that dildo that known as later describes known as later describes as a sexual device all right let's go to yeah okay so it says it gets even better it gets even better right nonus also talks about the antidote that they tried to give jesus on the cross because he he had taken the it's an antidote for the dip sass the dip set deep sauce in greek is just a way of saying a north african viper it's a specific type of north african viper lucan says you can buy this venom in the roman marketplace so yeah no they're using it right it's it's the medical treatment it's like a a a like you said it's like a medicine somebody's gonna put it on a dildo now now we're no i i got i just i'm just trying to find i'm just going to see where you're at with this all right so where do you how do you how do you interpret and john that this alabaster is the is the dildo i don't interpret it that's what nonas gives us and uh he says the antidote that we call the vinegar was a was an antidote for dipsas poisoning which makes you really thirsty it makes you really thirsty that's why they call it a dipses and you gotta you cry out i'm thirsty right jesus is doing that on the on the cross right so they try to give them vinegar so if you think okay you've got one source notice that's saying this and you think oh this can't be true wait a minute then you get the giaponica have you heard from the jew have you heard of the geoponica no it's a byzantine manual they usually call it a farming manual but it's mostly a pharmaceutical manual it's got an entire section by a guy named julius africanus and a guy named zoroaster and it talks about vinegar being the antidote the antidote they call it vinegar the antidote for this ritual drug that it is a venom based drug so there's multiple sources that talk about the pharmacology galen talks about that stuff that comes out of the pre-pubertal boy's penis when he's stimulated and they talk about it with the girls too there's an exudate there's a word for the exudate of a virgin right so uh and you have to know that the way that the greeks classify the age groups i heard one of your guests say talk about a techno and you got it wrong but you have to know how they classify and they classify around ages around puberty so it all has to do with the bud and the flowering when you're productive right so back to that virgin that's in genesis the heaven is depicted as as the stereo that version that not yet brought forth individual pre-pubertal on the cusp of puberty how old is medea in all of her appearances she's young yeah it says she's not quite ready for marriage just on just on the edge she's like what riot something like that yes yeah what no no no no no no no no no they're already married in their kids by 16. okay yeah you're right you're right good point it's around puberty it's around puberty as soon as it's considered you know you give yourself a year for time to cycle and then you you're ready to have children that's when you're an adult as a woman in antiquity so what's interesting about that is a lot of these greek myths like to imitate nature when they talk about these deities or not even just the deities even just sometimes the people and sometimes you get the impression that when they're talking about the young ripe i guess pre preteen or whatever they're trying to say this is like a a grown flower in its prime before it starts to decay right correct correct so medea represents this like beautiful flower that's like hasn't been picked it's just sitting there perfectly and it's like right that's the one that you know apollo wants that's why we all look we all get in our ships and we all sail over to dlos and we all watch these this chorus of nine to 12 year old girls come out in their scantily you know dressed wears this gossamer stuff that you can just see through you know we're used to this because we all compete nude when we're in sports and stuff like that you know what i mean it's not like a big deal well back then it was even less now it's where i mean we have now we have statutory rape laws and all that stuff because you know that's where we're at and but back then this was not back then this was like it was normal people just yeah people and older older guys had young boys orpheus by the way in in ovid's metamorphosis one of the most popular books of all time after or after euridus dies what does orpheus go do it says that he takes on the what does it say he says it says he takes on the the rights of pre-pubescent boys and plucking their puberty and i'm reading this and i'm going why doesn't anybody ever talk about this yeah orpheus becomes a boy rapist at the end of his life he's well hercules hercules was well hercules was a big influence on hercules had his ganymede you know i mean yeah but it's a pr it's a part of the deal right i mean do you think this i mean this could these are latin texts this is going first century bc first century eight i almost want to think like is this sort of like a thing that's happening in the mediterranean world yeah heck yeah what about those phrygian baptists man what do you know about baptist you gotta love those baptists because those baptists were doing their phrygian rights with the boys taking them out and juvenile tells us that they have cups that are shaped like penises that are yeah they're involved because i believe it the drinking from the penis he says these men take out these young boys this is a remember the phrygian mother remember the great mother i i read about a kid who walked up in an in antiquity right walked up cut off his cough his testicles they had these okay lucian right talks about the phrygian festivals imagine this it's public he says sometimes people get swept up in it who are just just watching it happen and we'll do the same thing but he says the boys come out the young catamites come out and they offer their with ceremonial swords they cut off their testicles and then they go through the town and they find a house and they throw their testicles into the house and wherever the testicles go that household is responsible for equipping this new initiate with a female dress and makeup cosmetics wow now now okay so you've written a book about this i'm not mistaken you wrote a book about the hermaphroditic gods of the ancient world and how it relates to jesus yeah can you can you walk us through a little bit of that sure the place you got to start is with venus right or aphrodite yeah by the way who's also lucifer who's a male so you have this is already a trans god right here okay but go ahead the the morning star baby you're right on the morning star beautiful stuff so yeah venus ultimately our oldest statues ever are ones with penises and you see if you look at what they call the androgyne there's great terms for this orpheus started the practice among the thracian tribes of turning for love to immature males and of plucking the flower of a boy's brief spring before he has come to his manhood yeah this is normal stuff back then yeah you can do that in pits in the ground oh it's almost mithraic but it's really herculean they do the same things it's the they got their ganymede yeah they got their ganymede so yeah let's not be surprised at the phrygian mother and her boys right so yeah at this is sort of a similar
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deity is that right i'm not mistaken he's a he's a boy who loses his who gets castrated yeah yeah they can they can hit that note you know yeah now that being said what do you think that what what do you think happens to all these rights do you think they get secretly under put underground like like you see in the catholic church you see all this crazy it almost looks like there's something happening like i don't know i'm just throwing stuff out there what do you think about that well we know there's the catechumens right that they're using in alexandria that we see written about extensively and we know the boys are stripped naked after two weeks of fasting they're stripped naked taken down into the undercroft and one of the priests takes on the form of lucifer right because you have to have that temptation makes sense they take off all their clothes i'm not kidding they tell i wrote a book about this too i'm pretty sure this book got me fired
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from university or something but you know they said it was the student who saw me levitate through the dorm but yeah anyway so in we have in this ceremony and the romans are arresting the context is the the romans are arresting christians for abusing orphans right so priests are taking orphans off the street bishops elders are taking orpha taking orphans off the street subjecting them to this catechumen procedure which we're told took weeks for them to talk them down from when they were finished but in this procedure they're presented with in a way that is exactly the ancient mystery strangely enough with the communion and everything they're presented with the devil's temptation now if the boy while he's being sodomized they oil them down right there's all this funny ritual and he says you shouldn't be worried about why you're naked because jesus was naked on the cross so the whole time they're using this kind of grooming having to do with jesus jesus you know presumably goes through the same process so there we have the boy being sodomized and if the boy while he's being sodomized is is able to scream out is able to cry out i uh rejects you then that boy's soul is un cannot be contaminated by demons and this is important so remember because the oracles the children that are being used as oracles in antiquity they have to be pure they can't be maligned or abused they can't have been sexually violated so the christians know this is just it's disgusting but in alexandria they come out declare if a boy is violated he can't be possessed by a demon right because that's what the pithy is doing remember pithia followed paul around people don't realize this but one of these young girl prophesied prophetesses followed who had the rank of pithia you don't understand that's huge that's like saying vestal right they have their own freaking temple right so she's following him around yelling about him being the follower of the christos and i'm like well what's so bad about that and this is in the book of acts and paul gets pissed off at her right right yeah and you get then he gets thrown in jail because he's doing some exorcism paul by the way gets bitten by by the viper and doesn't have any reaction right that should that that should tell you something wow you're right there's something going on there so who is this lady now the pythia by the way python is a snake right which is like why does it always have to be it's like when you look at the land the the linguistics of all everything you start to see where everything lines up the pythian the python who is this girl why is she following paul around what happens with this yeah why is she following paul because all she's doing is yelling about him being this follower of the christ right and why is that anger paul because technically he is right i mean yeah what's the problem so if you look at the actual episode he inhibits her power so he performs an incantation and gets rid of her diamond and the city is pissed off about it and they throw him in jail for it and anyway they eventually beat him what city is this i'm just trying to try oh somewhere in somewhere in greece somewhere right i don't oh i could pull it off the pithy is falling around ephesus maybe it was near ephesus okay i think it is i can't remember right now i can't remember just looking yeah just find the pithiest she's there all in ephesus okay well apollos was in corinth paul and the slave girl in philippi okay oh it's philippi oh is that where it is oh i didn't okay so let's let's pull this up okay here we go one day as we were going as we were going to the place of prayer we met a slave girl who had a spirit of divination brought her and brought her owners a great deal of money by fortune telling while she followed paul and us we she would cry out these men are the slaves of the most high god who proclaimed to you a way of salvation she kept doing this for many days but paul very much annoyed turd and said said to the spirit i order you in the name of yasudos to come out of her and it came out in that very hour but when her owners saw that their hope of making money was gone they seized paul and silas and dragged them into the marketplace before the authorities when they had brought them before the magistrates they said these men are disturbing our city they are jews and are advocating customs that are not lawful for us romans to adopt to observe the crowd joined them in attacking them in the measures that stripped them of their clothing in order to be beaten with rods so yeah she was following him around and this is in the city of philippi which is in macedonia what's so wrong what's so wrong with calling somebody the servant to the most high and the one who's bringing the soteria right the salvation what's going on there yeah why so bad man why have to why i have to call out her spirit baby that's you know that's low that's a low blow but you you you got to realize he goes through asia minor rebaptizing dudes that have been baptized by john so and telling people hey you can't be involved in this this idolatry which is funny we translated idolatry but it's porneia and they translate the the victorians translated porneia as idolatry or fornication that's the word yeah yeah so so what is what is idolatry slash fornication right it's sexual rights and the mysteries were known for that you know the temple prostitutes and everything right right so so how is she involved she's the pythia who's having sex with the diamond right wow right she's that virgin that's taking in that form and is able to communicate and he recognizes it and attempts to excommunicate it which you know evoke they call that to evoke the source they're doing this all the time it's old and it even goes back to it i would argue you can look at the calvin oracles and say oh you're three 3000 bc these guys were these guys were doing this kind of stuff so yeah let me ask you this before before we close this out this has been a really interesting interesting conversation i want to get back to the the garden of gethsemane for one second because if i'm not mistaken i think you tried you've once argued that possibly there could have been a right taking place in the garden that would medicate jesus a slow-acting drug that would put him into a coma before he went because he goes to the cross right after that the next day right or within the next day or no within a very short period of time and after his trial and so at the scene after the garden he is going she goes straight to the cross he's getting arrested well he's got to get shuffled back and forth while they're trying to decide within a day or two what to do with him and in the in the meantime he's get he's building up this nasty thirst and becoming a little bit non-communicative yeah it says in the text in the garden that he's sweating progressively right a lot of weird details happening here now are you right you think that there's some sort of argument here for the what is it called the swine theory the swine theory theory i think it's called where it says jesus didn't actually die if he was close to death oh no i i think he was dead because the guard the romans who were guarding him when they went to when they went to break his legs you know he was he was already gone and when they poked him all that water came out you know so it wasn't surprising that he was standing screaming about being so thirsty he had that stuff on his head all i'm saying is we have to look at the evidence and this is evidence straight out of coal he he is drinking the cup he takes the cup of the highest he takes the cup of god right what is that you got to remember in in the apocalypse right in the context of armageddon that cup is what the great the great expletive of babylon is gives her her her antichrist her her mystery of iniquity it's translated right it's a cup of her porneia it's actually her sexual juices it says that so when jesus when when jesus is in the garden and he's taking the cup of god he's taking something in that results in you know all of these kind of very culty they're using the same terminology for it i mean they're even talking about the antidotes and what he would be given so yeah is there a communion yet do the ophites who were around doing this are they using that communion yet or do the nicolasians yeah yeah are are the early christians having to sort out what rights they're going to do and what rights they're not going to do and whether or not they're going to they're going to follow the magi right because that's what simon is doing yeah simon is doing that calvin stuff and they're saying no no this is now we're not going to we're not going to go that direction now and it's the magi who finds him at his birth which is like they're there from the beginning so you can't say they're not a part of this thing right i'm trying to get that out there but hey this has been a really really fun conversation and i want to have you back on we could keep digging deep into all this stuff this is fun for me anything anything you want to promote while you're any books coming out anything about the websites you got going on you want to let everyone know about no i'm not going to promote anything i'm just going to tell people read the bible and learn some greek learn some greek that's the one thing i i i do is get that get that instrument so that you can function within this within this world you know you what i love about what you're doing now is you're bringing you're bringing back the sources and you're you know you you ask beautiful questions and sometimes your inner the people that i've seen that you interviewed can't keep up with the question but your question is is the most important question there's a reason for example there's a reason that moses has a box above which is the irregular voice of god the highest right there's a reason they're using the same saturnian titles we get satanism from that this late bronze age saturnian right so if you really want to express it most simply judaism and christianity are the offspring of late bronze age satanism developed under the black sea peoples who created the mystery religion that ultimately uh provided the soteria the salvation again it you know it was through a woman and this the woman's savior oracular savior at the time who by the way is a granddaughter of the son and we get our term medicine from her name yeah so the same symbol the serpent symbol too drive asleep and another thing i noticed before and i know we're closing out but real quick i noticed that around that same time here that you're talking about this helenation breaks out hellenization breaks out you get all these soters ptolemy soter and antiochus all these different soters they're all saviors yeah so it's like and alex and alexander's mommy yep and alexander's mommy have an intercourse she can produce so that she can produce ammo no it's just she can produce ammon the sun of ammon and the dude goes down alexander goes down to the oracle it's to ask amen yeah right he he's the son approaching his father through sex by the way who begets begottes him it literally says in the greek i was gonna i have begotten you as my son in the same way that you see in the new testament where jesus is baptized in the desert just like in siwa in the desert where there's water and the same thing happens he gets begotten by the god yeah mind-blowing that this happens they're both saviors they both it's just really really crazy really they are the oracle told us in the garden you know it's the enmity that's being put between the serpent's seed and her seed yeah right it's it's it's oh my goodness oh oh you want your you want that tree of knowledge your eyes should be opened you know yeah so well that's all great like i always say you have just attained true gnosis you have just attained true gnosis the demiurge has no power over you