people mumble or stutter a lot, causes errors in the youtube auto-transcript
people end sentences with e.g. "right?" a lot (may be nice to remove for readability)
youtube can't understand foreign-language words (e.g. Greek, Latin, etc), often resolves them incorrectly
youtube doesn't mark WHO is speaking, so you can't follow who said what.

Each one of these is worth the time in hand correction...

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I don't know what emissario de lequipo stones and serpents. Send those videos. See if you're not a bit scared to talk about that. The window. In 2025, a group of documentalists and artists begin the recording of a documentary and expedition. Across the Mediterranean This project at this moment is in full exploration and recording.

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What you're seeing now works as an expansion of the universe of our documentary project. With the intention of generating instances of information prior to our premiere. Almost a year ago, as a creative and recreational process, the team began a record of their own dreams. What began as a hobby became an increasingly recurrent practice among members of all areas of our project. For some of us, this has been key to maintaining a very particular thread around this process

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Of creation and documentation. We were immensely surprised when, during one of our field meetings with Dr. Almon Hellman, we were able to access texts that mentioned the enkoimion in ancient Greek, or incubation in Spanish.

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Without a doubt, the dream world began to be part of daily conversations and production Some records were synchronous and others disturbing. Next, we present volume three of our series, where this is just one of the topics we will develop with Dr. Almon. Welcome to History is Inquiry.

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>> Okay, I'm also um when we talked about we talk about the myth rate liturgy. What are we talking about? >> What are we talking about with the myth rate liturgy? You see, that's a great question. It's just an ancient text that somebody has labeled that. It's a magic text of Christians doing Christian stuff. And it's absolutely christening gorgeous. It has a christening in it and all of the born again process, manufacture the drugs, the application of the drugs, the christing that will allow us to see the invisible.

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That's what the Mithraic Liturgy is.

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>> So, I remember um like it was from 1 year or 2 years ago that you made this video about it. That was the first time for me when I heard about the Mithraic Liturgy, to be honest. Um and I remember you showed in your channel in Lady Babylon um you were you showed a video of Carl Jung talking about it. And then for me it was like, I've heard about Carl Jung before. Not very in into it, to be honest. Now I'm a bit more.

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But could you elaborate why did you show that and what is the connection with the Mithraic Liturgy and this um Carl Jung incident that you showed in your channel? >> Yes. So, Carl Jung he you know, he was in the way when the Liturgy entered the atmosphere. So, the Liturgy is written down in the collection of works called the Greek Magical Papyri.

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>> [Sighs and gasps] >> And it's very poorly translated as Dr. John Scarborough would who's one of the translators and my mentor would tell you right up top. The problem is the text is very, very difficult. It's esoteric. It has to do with sciences that all of us are not exposed to in ancient Greek. So, it's difficult. It's got a lot of drugs. Got a lot of formula, a lot of different prescriptions for activities that will bring the mystery by these Christians. And when I say Christians, I mean people

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Who were Christing. Right? These are the people who are following the mystery, who are Christing. So, this liturgy comes to us in Greek. >> Well, the question actually, more than a question, it's more about um that I remembered when you talked about it. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> So, I'm I'm referring to the time you showed um Dr. Carl Jung talking about it. >> We had a patient in the ward. He was quiet, but completely dissociated, a schizophrenic. And he was in the clinic over in the ward 20 years.

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He had come into the clinic as a matter of fact being a young man, a little alcoholic. And he's no particular education. And once I came to the ward, and he was obviously excited and caught me. He took me by the lapel of my coat and led me to the window. And he took No, now you see. Now look at it. Look up at the sun. And see how it moves. You see, you must move your head too like this. And then you will see the the fullness of the sun.

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And you know, that's the origin of the wind. And you see how the sun moves as you move your head from one side to the other. Now, of course, I didn't understand it all. I thought There you are. He's just crazy. And but that case remained in my mind. And 4 years later I

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Came across a a paper written by the German um historian um Heitrich um who had a dealt with a with the so-called Mithras Liturgy the part of the great Parisian social papyrus. And there he um produced the um uh a part of the so-called Mithras Liturgy namely uh it is said there after the second prayer thou will see the how the disc of the sun unfolds. And you will see hanging down from it the tube the origin of the wind. And when you move thy face and face to the regions of the east it will move

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There. And if you move your face to the region of the west it will follow you. And incidentally how could you be sure that your patient wasn't unconsciously recalling something that somebody had told you? Oh no, quite out of question because that thing was not known. It was in a in a in a magic papyrus in Paris in the uh and it it wasn't even published. It was only published 4 years later after I had observed my patient. And this you felt proved that there was a an unconscious which was something

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More than personal. Oh well that was not a proof to me but it was a hint. And I took the hint. >> The Mithraic Liturgy interacted with Carl Jung. It came to him in the form of a revelation of a schizophrenic patient.

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Ah. Jung said he was nuts. But, this kid described for Young a section of revelations from the Mithraic liturgy. Remember, the liturgy is there to open your eyes. It's there to give you a vision of the Oratos, that which is invisible, the unseen reality. And this schizophrenic patient of Carl Jung was sitting there looking into this vision, very specific description, before the Mithraic liturgy had ever been discovered or rediscovered.

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And when it was rediscovered, Young was associated with the people who rediscovered it. And to his surprise, the schizophrenic's visions were reality, that they were connected, and that Young had no problem with embracing that and allowing that to drive what his Red Book was all about.

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>> [Sighs] >> It's gorgeous magic, absolutely gorgeous magic. Yeah. I don't remember if that was I don't remember if we talked about that. But, I do remember talking about the Magus and Abamon and bringing you the seal that was in that new book of Young's. Right, which is his title of it. Um and I Did we look at the depiction of time and space that Young has in there with the little tiny fallaces and the cops? You see, Young was so to the magic that he was able to access

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Things like these texts that were just drawn out of out of time itself, these magical papyri. And his close connection is what drove that um image of the Macus that really is the heart of the Red Book. Um it's there specifically that Jung puts his seal upon the work. >> [sighs] >> And again, if you don't understand what that is, it's because you're not privy to those magical traditions that the 20th century German classical philologists were uncovering, exposing

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Just oh god in the 1920s and 30s, teens, 20s, and 30s. The German scholarship, classical scholarship was phenomenal. And all of those old esoteric texts were edited by people that were functioning within the orbit of Jung. And that gorgeous dedication to those texts

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Um brought the Renaissance in Jung's own mind. And you can see it when you see these old um when you see these old films of Jung talking about his experience with the schiz- with this particular schizophrenic kid. Um you can see him making the connections that ultimately would drive um the Macus. I'm sorry, I forgot the tower. It's too much of that leaf. >> that was perfect. Okay, Ammon. So, we'll skip on topic. And um is it Now, I want to ask you because when we at the beginning of this project, 1 year ago,

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We started to record all of our dreams. Not because we we we didn't even had our first meeting. And we were already already doing it because it was like a joke for us, to be honest. I mean, I was recording my dreams because I was dreaming about every everything related with the with the project, you know, with Stones and Serpents. So, I was all the time dreaming some some stuff and I was recording it because when I was younger, like when I was like 15 or 16, I I used to be I I

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Like to do that. You know, like to record my dreams and whatever. So, I started again. And then I told the crew and the crew started to do it uh like at the same time we started with the project. And then, when we had the first um

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Formal meeting and we were in Malta, I don't know if you remember, I told you about this at the end of our conversation and I told you that we were recording our dreams and and I remember you told us, "Keep doing that because you know, they were doing that and it was mandatory to keep um track of your dreams in antiquity. So, what do you mean about that?

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>> It was mandatory for the priests and priestesses to write down all of the dreams that are experienced within the temple sacred precinct. So, what they would do is they would have people perform incubations. This is all over the Mediterranean. And it's not just Greek, it's all over. But, the idea is that you would enter into a sleep state in order to communicate with the god. So, you can enter a mystery and you can be initiated by the god, who will speak to you, who will

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Interact with you, who will show you things, who will take you places. You can do that at a mystery operation, or you can do it in a dream. So, um in antiquity, on the Greek side, the language gives us kind of a world of dreams that is prophetic, that we have lots of authors who talk about, well, what's the origin really of divine vision? Where does it come from? Its core must be in the dream state. So, you get you get these physicists who will map out and will say, "Yep, the power to dream is the original oracular

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Power that all humans have naturally." Unfortunately, that power can be muted. So, in order to maintain a connection with the divine, we need to establish oracles, who themselves will be those receptacles for the vision. We don't have to dream it anymore, as is our base technology, right? We can harvest the vision through the oracles. And that's exactly what they're doing in the initiation of the mysteries, which it says in the PGM, in the Christening section, that that's the whole process, to make that invisible

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Visible right now. So, when you go back to the basic method of dreaming, you can be treated in a temple then by a priest or priestess in an incubation where you sleep. You're given drugs, you sleep during the night, and you encounter visions. You then take those visions and you give them to the priests to then determine exactly what it is that um what ails you, what's making you sick. They can tell. What's making you sick? What was the cure that was provided? The god who dwells in the temple, that diamond, that power

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Has the ability to tell you both what you suffer from and what will cure you. So, those elements are part of your dream. And the priest is there to sit there and kind of interview you and pick out exactly what it was that was given in the dream for you to for you to be able to do. So, dreaming and speaking to gods

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And health are all one one operation.

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>> And just someone um as a golden nugget, what what does the incubation like it has some Greek roots the the word the actual word about incubation when we are talking about dreams? >> Right. Uh okay. Yeah, that's a great question. What language is producing this? It's Greek that's producing this. And the word in Greek is in hoopneon, right? It's the combination of the hoopnos the the sleep that state itself,

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Right? With just a little prefix that's going to say, "Hey, we're going to put you in this state. We're going to You're going to be in this state." So, incubation comes. That's the Latin. Oh god, these hot-dwelling bastards

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Tried to, you know, they had to have their way of saying it, too, right? >> [laughter] >> Hey, if you want to exercise someone, you've got to be involved in these incubations. Um because you're never going to be able to get to the stage of diagnosis without vision,

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Right? Vision is awareness and understanding. So, for you to find your own diagnosis, you have to be able to produce that vision. Some practitioners did it with dreams, and some practitioners did it in states of ecstasy um that the PGM is all about and talks about you know, you'll be able to reproduce this meter, this poetry with the correct music.

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And um there's even a term for it in the PGM. Um the music uh is considered a relaxed tone.

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So, there's a lot of There's a lot of text here going on in the cult that you don't, you know, it's very difficult to appreciate the whole thing.

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>> Well, going into that topic, the cult, um the last episodes we're being talking about something like everything about the cult and oracles and how they were being made and trained. And but we left I remember I asked you a question and at the end you told me um you don't have to forget that the priestess is um

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Providing her own fluids. So, just in simple words what that will mean? What fluids? To who? What are we talking about when we are talking about the fluids of the oracle or the priestess? What what what kind of fluids? >> Yeah. All kinds of fluids. So, all of those bodily fluids that you can produce those are used within the right. Now, you can find this in the medical text where they discuss the use of these fluids.

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Or you can find it in the poetry where it will make reference to the drugs, the plants that are used in creating um the proper vessel for the fluids. You can see it there or you can see it in the the text that document the history of the cult. And the best example is um the apocryphal text of early Christian that is Christening worship when it was taken over by Jesus, the right. His variation was added to the right.

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At that time, you see the emergence of this communion a sexual communion that is specifically the seed. Both men and women produce seed. A priest or a priestess, a son of God, or a priestess, can produce seed.

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And that seed is their vital fluid. It's different from every other fluid. It's the vital fluid. So, um you see this expressed in the Greek very early on, just very simply, as the blood and flesh. When you administer to me your blood and your flesh, you are giving me the right. You are the cup from which I am drinking in order to receive the vision.

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So, you see it in these texts like the Acts of Philip. You see it in um sources that discuss the use by what we would call early Christians of these drugs for the sake of the induction of ecstatic states of mania, and for the sake of traveling through these interdimensional zones, you know, the Ouranoi they call them. All right. And again, people say, "Does this have anything to do with Mithras?" Of course it does. Right? It is not just the Mithras liturgy, right?

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It is the Helios liturgy. It's Helios-Mithras in the text. That's why they call it, right? The Mithraic liturgy, cuz it's Helios-Mithras.

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Anybody Anybody who's involved in the cult knows that the granddaughter of Helios is that cup. That's the power that the cult produces. Is it Mithraic? Mithra was a female before she was ever a male. And this is exposed within the cult itself.

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That priestess is going to be giving you her flesh and her blood. Jesus is fighting for dominance in this priesthood, the Echidnaic priesthood. We have a text that talks about the specific There's multiple texts, but the Gospel of Philip was very explicit about everything and why these why the apostles must fight and destroy this other priesthood, which is the Mithraic

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Echidnaic priesthood, where the priestess is supplying us with the blood that gives us life. >> Okay, and and well, I guess I want to to go into specifics, like when we say blood and we because I understand that you are saying that this concept of communion or the concept of the cup and the actual thing you are drinking, let's say. You have to drink it, isn't it? Um that it will create an effect that it will be used for some um for something that you are trying to like the effect you are trying to produce on on the initiated or in the people that

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That are part of the cult or, you know? So, do we know from the text what are we talking about? I mean, is the actual blood is semen, ejaculate from a woman? What is it?

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>> It's the within the Okay, you can't ask that as a general question because it's different everywhere. We have different texts that talk about it differently. So, you say is it the semen? Is it the ejaculate? In the Mithraic

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Liturgy, we have a christening of mysterium. We have a christening of the mystery itself into the eyes of the person who is being initiated. That act >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm sorry, I'm in and when you say christening, >> Yeah. >> for for us like everybody to understand, what do you mean? The christening of something, what that will mean? >> Yeah. So, christening

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And anointing, you might say, are two different applications in antiquity. Christening is the application of a drug that is involved in things that have to do with toxins and antidotes.

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So, if you are going to treat scorpion envenomation, you're going to use a christ. You're not going to anoint, you're going to christ. In the Mithraic liturgy, the drugs are being christened in a final compound form into the eyes of the initiate so that their eyes can be opened and that they can see. And what can they see? The text is explicit

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About what they see. Their sight, which is described as the process of being born again. Palingenesis.

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The process of being born again. The vision that takes place is a standard vision. Is there no variations? It's a standard vision. For example, the virgin. You have to find the virgin. Right? All of this >> So in in the connection with Now that we understand that Christening is the application of and specific Um you were talking about before which specific um Well, I I I I I I I I I I We know they talk about blood and everything. So can we go back to that specifics and that chemistry?

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What do we know about that? What What are we drinking? >> Right. Good luck with the Good luck with the chemistry. Um so the Mysterion is the name of what is being Christened into the eyes

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Of the initiate in the Greek Magical Papyri. Okay. That substance Mysterion that is being applied to the eyes. The word it uses is ops. And that ops is not just your eyes, but your visual field.

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So, the cult was looking at this as christening your visual field in order to see the invisible. This is being born again.

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>> [Sighs] >> So, the specific drugs that are involved are contained [clears throat] within the Mysterion. Now, this particular text gives a couple of ingredients at its very end that are going to be used in the process, but the Mysterion is not the drug

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That is the communion drug that initiates. The Mysterion is what is provided by the priesthood. They may use the drugs that you bring, which they do, but they use that as a base for what is the hidden mystery.

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>> So, so we can know we can know something but not all of the all of it, obviously. >> Um you know, I I would argue that no, that we can know all of it. >> We can't >> Yeah, thanks thanks to the physicians who were able to record and save the prescriptions for the Mysterion.

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>> [Sighs] >> And it turns out that there's a lot of there's multiple authors who write about Nero's arch physician. And of course Galen does, and we've discussed that before, and Galen has the guy's entire theriac.

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Okay? But there are other are who talk about this arch physician and what he was working on. It is my opinion. It's my No, it's not an opinion. It's a suspicion. I suspect that we have a complete formula for mysterion.

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And if we could re- if we could reproduce that formula, we could reproduce if we have all the plants and all the different species that are involved, we could reproduce the communion substance that the priesthood was giving. Here's the added difficulty. >> We actually could recreate that with the text. >> We We could. Here's Here's the problem, though. The act of administering the drug is a sexual act. So, the transmission We know that they're using the semen. But, the transmission of that semen is that ultimate holy act. So, what the body has done

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To the drugs that are being given to the priests, right? That's part of the equation. In addition to everything that they're using cuz remember, these cults are going around the Bacchantes, for example, with their venoms and their dildos. And they're not swallowing their venoms. >> So, they So, they were not using semen. Obviously, they were using um female um

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You know, like when you when we talk about like the Bacchantes and because this is like um something what you talked about seed. Yeah, we can understand that and communion and the connection with it. >> Right. And she still has seed. The female still has seed. >> That's That's That's what I mean. Yeah, okay. So, >> Right. So, when we receive her communion, we receive that life-giving substance, it's not only what her body has produced in that ejaculation, it's also whatever chemicals that they're using on their

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Dildos in the process. What have they given What have they given to her over time? And what have they just given her within the right? You know, all of that chemistry, that's why I say, "Good luck." All of that chemistry together is going to create the mystery. If you don't have her, you don't have the mystery. What does Jesus do when he takes Mary up into the woods with the with the apostles, the young apostles? What does he do? He tries to get her and the kids to eat his semen.

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Why? Because he's the son of God. And we know that his seed is life. Now, that to you that sounds almost almost Christian, doesn't it? Like, the son of God. I hear that. But, it's not. It's referring We have texts of the sons of God far earlier that are talking about the powers that they possess from their pharmaceutical knowledge.

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So, >> So, can we uh talk about the the concept of communion? Like, the word, the actual word. Like, communion. Where it comes from? Because I I've heard about the communion. Everybody has to do his his communion when he's a kid, you know. I'm in a Christian country or Catholic country. And I haven't, but all my friends, you know, when they were young, they go to their first communion. Isn't it like primera comunión La primera la primera comunión. So what what what we know about what is this communion?

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Like the roots of it. >> Yeah, getting beneath the Latin of the word communion, right? You get down to the Greek root of it. Which is the fellowship the koinonia, the fellowship of the two. What is the fellowship that we have? They use the word for intercourse. Right? Modern Christians use this term to talk about their groups of that will have ice cream socials on the Protestant side. They'll talk about that. Catholics will refer this as the communion, the process itself

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Of receiving the life-giving substance. Remember Jesus when he gives his semen to the Mary and the kids won't take it. When he gives it to Mary, he tries to get her to take it. He tells her this is life. I do this because I'm giving you life.

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That whole understanding of receiving those seeds, right? Is um the the physics behind the right. Remember, these are the seeds of life. They will produce something. So if we attune that in our right, we can create by receiving that seed, we can be born again.

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Okay. So when we when we talk about the cup of media or the cup of the ancient times, we're talking about something that Christianity took like long after, I guess. The concept. Isn't it? The cup. >> Yeah, the person is the cup because the communion comes through the person and their fellowship. The act of fellowship, the koinonia, that act of coming together,

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Right? Is the Greek synousia, they would say. When two people come together for fellowship, they produce and receive

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Seed. So, the very word for communion is in Greek a word for sexual intercourse. Remember, idolatry is sexual activity.

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All right? There is no line between the performance of a religious pagan act in a temple and the act of having intercourse. The priestess is using that power to produce the communion.

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>> Thank you, almost. So, to keep going like um before it was a perfect timing, but I'm going to try to get it again. Yeah. When we talk about um we skipped a bit about the mother cult and that came

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To after when after 800 BC, I guess it is, like when we can have the records about it. And even Roman times, um What What is this great mother cult? Can you uh talk talk about us uh a bit of the great mother cult? And what is the connection with this um with the with your book, actually? I guess that's was the first time I I I heard about this idea of the unique of the um hermaphrodites and [\\h__\\h] gods and and all of that. So, can you talk about us

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Um a bit of of that? Can you elaborate on this mother cult and this idea? >> Yes, and it's a big deal. And how do we know the mother cult from antiquity? You know, cuz I could just be making jack up. You'd never know. How can you go check on all of this? It's from the ancient sources themselves. The Greek and Latin-speaking world that encountered the mother cult. We can go back and we can read what, you know, silly Romans said, right? Oh god, they have their sensibilities. You know,

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We're talking about You can look at authors like Apuleius, Lucian. You can see how did they refer to this kind of eastern

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Cult from Asia Minor that kind of infiltrates the Mediterranean. And by the 1st century, they are the Romans are, you know, crazy about the great mother, Magna Mater. What are you talking about, man? Magna Mater is everything. Who is she? So, look, what do we do? We look at what they did when and watched the people performing the rites of the Great Mother. And what it is is it's a lot of magic,

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A lot of testicles getting ripped off, and a whole bunch of stories, illustrations of the Great Mother cutting off the private parts of her devotee, her child. She's raising the child. Now, shh, don't tell anyone cuz it's kind of not so good today, right? But this is the the cult of a beautiful

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Goddess creator who initiates we people, we mortals, into a state of immortality. And she does that through the child, the boy who is coming into his sexual maturity. Right? She has a direct sexual relationship. Now, this is going to blow your mind cuz you would think, "Oh god, let's not talk about Great Mother and sex in the same same breath or else we're going to be Oedipus. Good god." Right? Um that tension is part of the tension that the Greeks and the Romans both kind of expressed, not kind of both

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Expressed.

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There is a closeness, there is a a change in perspective that creates an intimacy. So, we're looking at a religion, a performance that is taking place between the mother and the sexually

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It's process of education. And it's process of bringing the child to the adult immortality. There's risk involved in all of this, right? And you can lose the person. The lover of the great mother can be lost to the nymph. And you say, "What What What the hell are these people talking about?" When you consider what the cult actually does, that the Romans and Greeks report to us. When you see that the young boys who were joining the religion, they don't go to communion like you do in Catholic.

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They don't go through the steps of who ha and genuflection. No, they have to publicly cut off their testicles and begin to dress like women in order to maintain that sacred relationship with the great mother. And you would be smart to listen to them. Because they have a form of communication that is only possible through the eunuch. Right? You're not a eunuch, right? You weren't You didn't have your testicles right? >> Still. Still uh yeah, still. >> Okay. You've had them all your life, right? And they've developed who you are.

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But you would have a different ability if at 10 years old you and I went to the temple and you got caught up in the caught up in the festival, the holy day, right? You see the holy day is not when we go eat and sing Merry Christmas to each other. The holy day is when the whole town gets together. we burn these massive drugs in these massive heaps, and we all get incubate we all enter infused, excuse me, we get infused with the power of the goddess, and then some of us come forward and cut off our

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Testicles. That gives us a form of vision that you and I don't have. All right? You don't understand who the great mother is because your private parts are blocking you from understanding her. So, this kind of wisdom, what it ultimately is, and the Romans recognized this, it was providing society with a very disciplined form of respect

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For that female maternal ideal. >> And I'm on do do do we have uh some accounts about um this this situations that you're talking about that you we can go around quickly? >> If If we didn't have any accounts, I wouldn't be able to say that. The best one The best one is in Lucian's De Dea Syria, on the Syrian Goddess. Uh it's horribly written and it's terrible. It's supposed to be Ionian, like heavily Ionian with Dorian uh kind It's awfully written. Lucian does it on purpose because he's

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Mimicking dialects, right? He's just a good writer, and that's what he does. But, if you get beyond that to the content of the Syrian Goddess, it's called, by Lucian, he has an a very distinct description down of the boys cutting off their testicles. I I cuz that's really what matters, right? All the mythology and all the story, none of that matters. What matters is the people are going forward in order to gain an access of a vision to a woman, a mother, and they are cutting off their balls to do that.

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Voluntarily, willfully, and then joining her priesthood so that they can dress like her, they can look like her, they can feel like her. And society reacts. And Lucian, when the kid cuts off his testicles, he he's he has to do this. He picks one of the houses in the area. Maybe it's with one of his school chums. Throws his testicles into the house. They splatter against the door, right? Whatever door

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Gets those testicles hit, right? The person comes out, knocks, and there's balls on their door. They know already. They know already they have to take a complete kit, a woman's kit that is female dress, complete set of female dress, and give it to him so that he can enter into their society. And he can he can have that feminine understanding. All of that through a sexual relationship

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Do you understand? Oh, God. >> Yeah. Oh, God. And and and and and I'm on I I think probably Lucian. And probably there was um some drugs involved. I mean, if you are going to cut the That was happening in in the street where Andalucian account.

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>> This is something that people get wrong about antiquity that I want to correct right now, and I just want people to see it. Right? Um Medea was credited with the first fumigations. What What is a fumigation? A fumigation is when you take a compound drug and you aerosolize it, you burn it, and people inhale the fumes and experience

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Changes in attitude,

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In consciousness, right? All the way from putting somebody to sleep to making them euphoric. This is called a fumigation. Medea is credited with the invention of the fumigation. When you perform religious rites, you fumigate

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The people involved because that's how you cleanse them. If you're in the wrong state of mind when you come to church on Sunday morning, you're going to sit there and take that communion, it's just going to taste like a piece of bread with some [\\h__\\h] salt on it or something, right? Oh, god. But, if you walk in the church doors and they fumigate you,

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That communion is going to take on a holy act. It's going to become a holy act. It's putting you in the state of mind. So, are they using drugs? I want to correct everybody right now. Yes, a ton. Through the act of fumigation, even the Athenian Assembly

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Burns cannabis before they meet. They fumigate the crowd with cannabis. Why? It says we have texts that say, "In order to promote a jovial discussion."

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In order to promote engagement, they fumigate people with cannabis. Imagine if we took one of our senators Congress or parliaments. Imagine if we took them and forced them to smoke cannabis before they met. You take the person and you take them out of the profane and you put them into the sacred. You change their perspective. That's why they called using drugs sitting on the throne.

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The throne of Satan in Pergamum is not a seat or a chair. >> [sighs] >> And that's what all of these texts, you know, one one of the best places to get a lot of this is the Apocrypha, too. People don't look at the Apocrypha cuz they're afraid to. Right? You've got it. You've got There's a ton of texts out there. >> Well, yeah, it's I guess it's a bit to do not at all, but like right now you make um gathering and you will get some I don't

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Know, some cocktail or whatever. But it's not the same effect, I guess. >> You know, the the um Syrians practiced cannabis bathing every day. And we don't know for sure that it was just cannabis that they're burning um because they it's very rare um for people to be able to just burn one plant. Why is that? Because the incense they called it for incubation. The In Greek, it's thumiama.

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Right? That incense is always a concoction that they make into little bricks that are then sold and bought in marketplaces. It's so deep in the Greek language. The very oldest Oh God, very oldest stuff we got. You go get the incense. You've got to go get the brick. Go to the market, get the brick to do it. Oh, you know who has these? The priests. The priests sell them. Especially that priestess in Lemnos. You go get her seal. Right? I will put it on your head. We

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Will Christ you. And you will be born again. I can do that to you. There's a formula for it in the PGM, in the Mithraic liturgy. If you're a righteous dude, it says that I do Bruno, you're righteous dude. Let's get together and let's see death and life played out all over so we can You know what I mean? So we can go on with our lives and not always worry about death. See, the one thing the one thing the cult does It It doesn't get membership dues. It

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Doesn't try to run after you to go to ice cream socials. It doesn't try to get you to register to go to walks for pro-life. It doesn't do any of that. What it does is it makes it so that you can walk around for the rest of your life not being afraid of death.

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That is profound. It's profoundly medical. It's profoundly religious. If you offered me something that wouldn't give me the rest of my life not being afraid of death, I would take it in a [\\h__\\h] second. >> Me too.

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I have I have a a good question for you now. >> Go ahead. >> Um well, if you go far like farther in time from what we're talking about and we go like to Roman and Jesus time when he was alive. What is the connection of Jesus and the question >> the connection of Jesus to the mystery? Um he's christing. Jesus is christing just like everybody in the mystery, just like they're doing in the temple. Right? Just like the stain that's getting to be on Mary's

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Fingers, the mother of God, right? Who goes through this process, this revelation where the invisible God, the Oratos, the Aeon comes to her and rapes her. Right? Sorry, but that's part of the deal, right? I told you the virgins are necessary, right? This is all operating

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Against the background of Jesus' life. When he talks about a mystery or when he says, "Blessed are the eunuchs right? For the sake of the kingdom of heaven." Those expressions that he's using are not just random [\\h__\\h] he pulled out of his head. He's referring to specific acts within the mystery itself. He's referring He's using mystery terminology himself.

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He shows, just from speaking, that he's well, well versed. So that when he comes to the Garden of Gethsemane and he's praying to the invisible God that we all pray to when we go through the mystery and saying, "Let this cup pass." And standing next to him is not a cup, is a naked kid with a bandage on his hoo-ha. Mark 14:51-52.

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Jesus is using the very same cult language that everybody else is using. That the text preserve for us. He's not the originator of this. He's just a user. He becomes a priest.

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He gets apostles. He puts them through the rights. The great mother was doing the same. It was just a woman. But she was doing the same. She was working with the boys to bring them to maturity through her seed. It was life. So he's doing the same thing. He's performing this mystery. He doesn't deny it. All right? When he's executed, All right? He doesn't deny any of this lay stick practice that they arrested him in the middle of doing. He doesn't deny any of that. Remember? He shuts his

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Mouth. All right? Says, "Whatever. You said it." All right? >> Do we have Do we have this um How can we I know we have we don't have much time, Ammon, but um do we have this in the Bible? >> Yes, of course, of course we do. Right? He won't confess as to what's really going on. The only thing he says when he's arrested is, "I'm not a trafficker. I'm not a trafficker." All right? For whatever reason he was trying to let them know, "I'm not a trafficker." because they kill

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Traffickers and there were two of them in the Bible that he was killed between. So he was tried with traffickers and killed with traffickers. And in the Bible, his crime is so terrible that a murderer is pardoned instead of him.

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A murder. They've got one pardon position. Who do you want to let go? Murderer or this guy that we just got for being a lace day? You're going to have to get him. He's He was arrested with a naked kid. Nobody likes that. Julius Caesar didn't like it. Nobody likes it. They're trying to clean this [\\h__\\h] up in the 1st century BC and 1st century Anno Domini. They are trying to clean this up in the Mediterranean.

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It is a struggle. It is a struggle. And unfortunately, the traditions that promote taking captive children, essentially drugging them, and then forcing yourself upon them sexually, which, you know, you can consider eating your semen to be a, you know, an act of rape.

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All of that world is not possible without the terminology that and the drugs and everything that Jesus is using that you and I look at today and we think very harmlessly, oh, the naked kid, right? The That is a You ask any bishop, who's the naked kid? Right? Fleeing from the garden. And they'll look at it in a way that is totally non-reminiscent of the reality that's in the text. So, there are all sorts of examples of Jesus using drugs, christing, putting

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People in positions of um sexual dominance, where he dominates them sexually. Periods of him getting naked. Nobody cares that when he's with the apostles and I just want Can I just say this? The whole world right now, I'm going to wake you up. I'm going to do a magic trick right here at the end. I'm going to wake you up. The whole world thinks Peter and James and John and those apostles, they think they were adult men. They weren't. When Jesus was performing his ministry with his apostles, he had to pay an adult tax himself for people over the

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Age of 20. This is in the Gospels. He had to pay an adult tax, and he insisted that they pay for Peter just in case because he looks like he could be 20. But then the texts go on and describe all of those kids as juveniles. So, it makes sense that Jesus would say, "You know, Peter looks like he could be 20, so we're going to go ahead and give him a We're going to pay for him, too. But the others, they are just his students." Jesus is not walking around

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With grown men. He is walking around with children, the youngest of which only rises to his breast when sitting on his lap. That's John, the one he really loved. His favorite. So, um uh the Greek is important. We need to read the Greek. We need to get, you know, this is all part of the mystery, and people don't People don't realize it. So, we need to get it out there. >> [music]

Transcript: 20260420-History Is Inquiry - Vol. III - With Dr. Ammon Hillman ‪@ladybabylon666‬ ​#podcast #documentary

Transcript: 20260420-History Is Inquiry - Vol. III - With Dr. Ammon Hillman ‪@ladybabylon666‬ #podcast #documentary