[Watch on YouTube] | Timestamped transcript
I do not intend to recount all the works of the Savior from which I have benefited to this very day. Even if I possessed 10 tongues and 10 mouths, it would not be enough.
What was asked of me seemed as though after crossing the entire sea beneath its surface, I were required to give an account of every wave I encountered, of the water I tasted in each and of the manner in which I was saved. Every one of our days and every one of our nights contains material enough for a written work. If anyone wish to record them
Or to speak of the providence of the God revealed through his presence and through the visions sent during the I do.
There's lots of places you can go. >> I'm arriving to Istanbul. >> Mhm. >> Uh Monday. I'm traveling Saturday and I'm arriving Monday. >> Okay. >> So, you know, it's like it's not like a first class
>> That's a long ass flight. That's a long flight. Now I'm going to be traveling the world and then
Of course I'm gonna head that direction which covers a bunch of of of good stuff. You know, in the west side of Turkey, >> you have to go to Pergamum. You have to go to Pergamum. You're going to like if you go down the Ionian coast, you're going to see all the places you you're going to be surprised at the technical achievement. And I want you to keep in your mind while you're looking at this when you go to Pergamum too. when you go to Pergamum and you see the level of technical achievement because you're
Going to go to the um temple of Eskeipius, right, which has its own library which has its own tradition of being the best trauma surgeons of the entire Mediterranean. That's Pergamum. That's what they're known for. So, when you see that there, I think it's going to I want you to keep in your mind that it's coming from the language. There's something special that they're doing with the language.
Hello my friend. >> Hello. How are you? My friend, how are you? All good. >> Thank you so much. You >> just want to show your your beautiful place to my friends. I'm going to come later. >> I'm here. >> See you. >> No problem. Okay.
>> Hotels is will be closed. >> But some hotels. >> We will hopefully Next time we have a car. So >> yeah.
>> So I started um by arriving Istanbul. I arrived Istanbul like um don't remember the exact date. I'm sorry. 4th of Jul of July I took my plane. It took me three days of different airports
You know. Um, it was the logistic I could manage at that point, but I already had one person here, Martin, which um, he was already in Turkey when I arrived. So, all of the logistics at the beginning was um, we were able to to actually gather our stuff and to plan very uh, quickly. After that from Istanbul we decided to um travel to the west coast Turkey
In the AGMC. Uh I'm going to show you the map for you to know. Uh from Eastbul it took us took us like 10 hours or so to get to the place we're now in Kusha. Um which is very very interesting place uh as an strategic point actually. And then we found this uh beautiful hotel sole. Um
And then we met Mah the owner. Uh I'll show them up for you to see and also for you to understand why we choose this place. Um I'll highlight the places that are around that are connected with you know the cult of the great mother of course frigian
History um the eastern influence. So now we've been here for like a week and took we have been taking videos and everything. So I created the whole route and this project that now we call the Pergamum mission. You will see that Pergonom is not right here. It's like 200 kilometers from here. But you also will see why it makes sense that you start in the coast and then go inland towards Pergamon. Um cuz it's actually actually like something they they will be doing in ancient times. Um because obviously the AGNC was connecting
Everything. and permeating towards inland as from east stuff was coming to the west or to the agency. So it's very interesting how um all of this mixed of knowledge and places you know and people especially people are um
Are creating reality kind of thing.
Uh there is a very important thing for us which is the concept of the of an oracle let's say because also we uh as we are engaging with this topic of religion and the way of how they were living not the Greeks like the whole area. >> Mhm. >> You can see that it was uh this idea of an oracle maybe is a word that the word will change depending on the place but the practice will be the same >> that it will be this um institution that it was actually uh training women to be
Able to tell you what >> what it was going to happen and at the same time with a very strong political power like if she says something not even the king will change it. It's close to our view >> which is absolutely you know people don't talk about that part that much now >> you cannot talk on it. Yeah it's a rule. Yeah. >> Okay. So, so will will you just elaborate a bit on what what will be the idea of the oracle or the institution of an oracle in in these times in this part
Of the of this? I mean >> people always need a gods or goddess for >> the idea of control everything. People like it even today. I mean uh because we invented the gut oursel I mean we create something and we start to believe in it. So oral idea is a physical form of the god c you understand what I mean because um today we're going to do we don't need a we don't need a places for pray for for worship right >> any place can be worship place but we
Still building churches we still building mosque or synagogues or temples because our senses just based is on five different things and we always need something physical visible touchable things. So these ladies let's say
Oracles which must be untouchable just virgin ladies must be virgin ladies >> and under the under >> Mhm. >> they say something and it's showing to it's clinging to something flu something gray area. So you're a king and you don't know what's what is waiting you like but the Alexander the wid born in the western world but pass away in the east life so he love it he fall in love with the west so when he asked when he conquered to place when he planning to conquer somewhere he don't know what is waiting there there's a new life new
World and everything is so out of his control so he need uh hear something to about about his plan. So, records actually it's a amazing system because they never saying exactly specific things. They're saying in this war somebody lost. >> Oh yeah, I know what you >> what I mean. I mean who going to lost this side or this side? But your feel your reaction to the stations it's giving shape to the this comments and somebody lost in the head and you saying this. >> Mhm. You
>> Yes. But it's also like this um um the oracles had um like also views of what it will be something that it's going to be fair or they were kind of pushing some kind of of course of >> just this idea >> of course >> which is quite you know I mean it was not like a hundred years was like what we know just because of the text is like you have at least a thousand years >> with oracular kind of thinking of about what is just what is not you
Know what is uh so and let's say this guy is a tyrant uh the oracle say okay we don't we cannot have this tyrant would you say that the the oracle was trying to pushing towards a good thing >> of course because every oracle is controlling from uh controlling by the another people I mean
As you know they're not telling the truth or the future to people all day life. It's like a job. It's like a job. >> Yeah. They have like 10 years I guess they can >> they can be retired. >> Mhm. >> From the this this job and politics I think control all the time to this oracles even today I mean the big religious leader controlling by somebody. I mean >> Mhm. >> actually nothing changed. >> Yeah. I know. >> You understand what I mean? >> Yes. But also at the same time, I guess
Because it's kind of obscure, you know, for you, you I mean maybe not for you, but I mean obviously not for you, but we just knew that it was just women uh when we were like making the research >> because this was kind of forbidden at some point also like >> I guess it was like 400 anodomina like AD. I guess it was like like okay we don't are not having more initiation rights we're not having more or is it finished even today fortune tellers >> probably probably not but but what about
This idea of an initiation >> that it was like quite popular during this time that we don't know what was going on when you were being initiated or whatever you know we have all of these places like Lucy's or you know places that people was going to be initiated that I guess also was coming from eastern practices. >> Yeah. >> That it became popular and everybody after was trying I mean was doing it like like everybody was going and you could be initiated in what. So what I'm
Trying to say is like somehow looks like they were pushing towards like something that was good for society >> of course by by being initiated. of course >> and giving you I don't know like values let's say or something and obviously will be connected with their their religion that's why >> otherwise you cannot control societies. >> Mhm. >> This is the easiest and the best way. >> Mhm. >> And at the same time you're giving them something physical like a buildings like a people like there's this woman saying
Something and you can take money under name donation. >> Mhm. So this is a good chain. >> I I I I get your Yeah. Okay. Like the system makes sense. >> Of course, >> this conversation for us is called >> and I need a favor from you. >> Yeah. Tell me >> when you finish this documentary, you have to put a question mark to the end of every story >> for bring more people to because people curious >> people must curious to this and they must ask more questions.
>> Mhm. Because this is a point and Natolia which is my lovely country it's it's everything every story started in somewhere here. >> Yes. >> About a human being. >> Well imagine we have been doing this for a year but you have to travel and everything was a logistics which is a nightmare sometimes and we couldn't stay away from Anatolia cuz it's everything pointing towards it. You know I I understand it now. Yeah, that's why we are doing this second expedition and we are not doing the whole the documentary
Without coming here you know it becomes like the like where we needed to maybe to start but also it makes sense that we >> you will not be the first but if you go and you actually want to know >> it will bring you here for sure.
Huh? >> Yes. What time? >> Yeah, we'll fine. Thank you. >> Thank you.
Pergamum is the center. Pergamum is the place where all of that tension of the history with the language and with the art and the industry coming together fores that healing that is from Pergamum.
That civilization produces the center of the world's healing.
It was already winter and the thermal springs lay not far from the city. It was then, for the first time, that the Savior began to reveal himself to me. He commanded me to walk barefoot. And in the dream, I cried out as though I were awake and the command had already been fulfilled.
Great is Sleepius. His command has been fulfilled. After this came the call of the god and through good fortune. My departure from Smyrna for Pergamon. To relate what happened from that moment onward is not a task within human power. Yet I must attempt to recount at least some of those events.
When we first arrived at the temple during the first night, the god appeared to my attendant. From that moment onward, he began to grant me remedies for my illness.
We are in the acropolis of uh Pergamon
Just well you can see for yourself.
And well, as I'm not a, you know, a filmmaker, I'm just scouting location. Um,
I'm not sure what you are seeing through the camera, but this is just for me. Impressive
So now you can see it without a sound hidden probably guys in are going to tell me why did you didn't film at another hour of the day but
So, we were over there in the top. You can Well, you probably you will not be able to see it in the GoPro, but um if you go a bit up, you'll see that the theater is there. So you if you were walking here because this is called the ancient road
Is an ancient road and over there is where we were before in the theater and on the top is the temple we were showing you before. And this will be the ancient road. You know pe when people comes here they come in a car they get here and they go down that way or in the this little thing that goes in the air you know. So it's nobody taking this ancient road. Um over there was the agora of the place and now we are walking down back to the to the modern city let's say and um through the ancient road so called the ancient road.
That's Martin taking a picture of me walking doing this.
You know, once I uh wrote um like some kind of a poem about buses. I don't remember how it was. I'll trying to find it. But it's like about the feeling of when the bus starts, you know,
You know, you're going to be there kind of protected for for many hours. Just kind of relax inside of this inanimated
Um thing. Um, I love it. It's one of my favorite fittings.
In my dream, I stood before the propile of the temple. A great gathering had assembled there as if for a sacred purification. They were dressed in white and carried everything required for the ritual.
I called upon the god and then came the revelation. I could almost touch him. I felt his presence approaching while I remained suspended between sleep and waking. My hair stood on in. Tears of joy began to flow.
What man could express such a thing in words? But if he is one of the initiated, he knows and understands.
>> Oh, look. There's a crew. That's fantastic crew. Love it. >> We are recording. >> Are you okay with it? >> Um, let me call my mother and confirm. >> Okay, we wait. We wait. And now it's almost covered with some charred uh Clouds. I'm not sure what's going to happen during the night.