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20260720-History Is inquiry - Easter Expedition ⧸ Vol. 1 - With Dr. Ammon Hillman @ladybabylon666

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>> Now, what's going on in Turkey? You're going there. >> Yes, I'm going Saturday. Um but it wasn't planned like that but I guess I I just had to I had to um make it before as I was thinking you know I was thinking that I was going um August but then um an opportunity came so I was just like I took it and I'm flying Saturday. Um and what I'm doing in Turkey is um we are um


Seeing location we call it which will be like you go to locations >> where I mean there's lots of places you can go. >> Okay. >> So do you have do you have like a few top choices that you're looking at? You know what what have you scouted so far? Okay. So, like in in the in reality or you mean in the conversation? >> No, just in the places that you're going >> to in Turkey. >> Okay. So, I'm arriving to Istanbul. >> Mhm. >> Uh Monday. I'm traveling Saturday and I'm arriving [\\h__\\h] Monday. Okay.


>> So, [laughter] you know, it's like it's not like a first class [\\h__\\h] [laughter] That's a long ass flight. That's a long flight. >> I'm going to be traveling the world and then I >> and um I'm going to know a bunch of new airports. But anyways, [laughter]


I'm going to be staying in Istanbul for um the whole month. So from there, I'm going to be moving around. Um I'm going to have a flat there in Istanbul. Uh but I I've been um


Planning um and it's not difficult. So I can move around whatever place I want. We choose Eastanbul because it's like the place that I'm going to be staying is like I'm arriving to the Bosorus, you know, like just it will be like in [\\h__\\h]


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>> Five minutes from me. >> Yeah. >> Walk, you know? >> Yeah. Yeah. and and and so so I'm starting there and >> oh god can you just stop that's let me just say I am so envious um this is like a dream like this is for you to do this this is like


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It's a real privilege and um it sounds ext I mean like I I envy that's all I can say is I envy you okay so you're going to base yourself [sighs] in Istanbul, right? >> But for you to know, I'm >> Yeah, >> this is the crazy I've been in like 20 or so countries in like my life, but this is the craziest [\\h__\\h] I ever done. I mean, um my founding is not with me now, you know, that will happen after. So I'm I'm doing this [\\h__\\h] like um you couldn't


Believe like uh I don't even have dude I have a place till m till um Wednesday. >> Okay. >> So um I'm working with some people over there but you know you have to be negotiating all the time and this like you know and >> Okay. Where where are you going to head to? Where are some of the places that you want to hit? Have you looked anything up or can I just start throwing things at you? Well, that would be amazing. But this is the uh there's a point in the map which


Is um Toran. You remember Toran? The the you knew him. I mean you met him in in in one of our conversations when we were Yes. >> last year. >> He lived uh Malta after this project, bro. [laughter] >> And and he's living in Lebos. Um


>> The experience for him in summer race was so [\\h__\\h] hard like strong for him like he lived I mean he he changed his life he's living there I was talking with him now >> and and so Lesbos is like right there in the in the in the west coast of Turkey is far away from Istanbul >> but of course I'm going to head that direction which >> covers a bunch of of of good stuff you know in the west side of Turkey. >> Yes. >> And it's like um straight line to towards Pergamum Le was well you have


The other islands there of course Lemnos and what some >> you have to go to Pergamum. You have to go to Pergamum >> just because that's this throne of that's where the throne of the devil is, right? So um you have to go there. Absolutely. Oh god. So, okay, keep going. What else have you been looking at? >> Well, that that will be my big [\\h__\\h] um


Um how do you call it? Dissertation now. >> Okay. because I'm so worried right now >> to me to be able to go and take the plane that I have a bunch of ideas but I I need to settle myself for five days in Istanbul, gather my stuff and and have a meeting that I have to have over there with a person that I know which uh is helping me with the renting of place and everything because I can I will not do Airbnb, you know. >> Right. Right. Right. [\\h__\\h] 2,000


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For >> yeah no crazy >> so I'm doing that but but for that I need to uh to be a couple of days to have some meetings over there and and these people that I'm actually making engage with the project and even um they will probably have a part on it but I have to have the meeting and uh and then I will be able to okay guys you know I have to do this and that and that I have this map right here. I I'm going to Lesbos at some point. I'm going to Pergamum. And from here to here, we have


A bunch of things happening. If I keep going south, well, you know, the whole West Coast, it's >> all over the place. No, there's so there's so many places you can go. I wanted you to be able to track the akidna and go to um because her worship is at Harapoolus which is Pomukula modernday Pomukula


Um let me pull up here where's Anyway I'll


All of this is accessible I traveled Turkey myself to a lot of these sites and I'm telling you all of this stuff is accessible if you can get a rental car. Will you be able to get a rental car during this whole time? >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes, of course. >> And you're comfortable driving long distances.


>> I will have a very good driver if I have to find one. >> Okay. >> Like last time. And and if I have to do it, I'll do it. I mean I'm I'm going to be alone in in I told you that I'm going to be alone but when I'm arriving I'm actually with one with one person and um and I don't know till when he's going to be with me but it's helping me to make the whole thing you know so yeah I have a person that will drive it will not be me so but


>> I mean that's not problem that's the way you have to do it >> I need you >> I mean without a car will be impossible. Like last year the the the truck was everything.


>> I need to I need you to go to Pamukula. Hey Chewy, give me the sharing option. Can I share my screen? Is it under chat? No. Share. There it is. Here. Let me see.


I want to give I want to put this up there. Can I put this up there and just share it? Thanks. It's right here. Bam. So, she's got to send you a request for me to share >> and then you have to accept it >> and then show this right here. Boom. >> Just share it. Go. Okay. So, this is where you must go. This is where you must go. It's Pamukula in Turkey. And you're I need you to It's where all the history of the akidna


Um comes from. It's like her central uh there's a temple there. There's uh you can see the ruins now and you'll get the feel for what an ancient city was like. But um it's in the caves in this area where she practiced as the priestess as the ehic priestess and it was the apostles who were involved in taking her down and destroying the temple. um it was the apostles who did that because she was the um she was the true you know source of the communion. So as Christianity was spreading, it actively fought against


This aidic priestess and this priesthood is part of the um in the Apocrypha. I can show you where it talks about the wars between the Christians and the priests of the serpent. The priestess of the serpent here. Anywh who, it's in the caves though. There's there's lots of ruins for you to investigate and educate yourself with. But the re >> the reality is in the cave. >> Can you give me the name again? >> Yeah. Pamukula. Let me show you. Hang on.


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>> Right. It's Turkish now. [sighs] Okay. Oh, it was not that one. >> Here we go. Uhuh. Uhuh. Let me see if they've got Here's the map. If you can see my screen, you know, from the satellite, you can see roughly where >> it is. >> Right. You're you're still in western Turkey. >> Yeah. >> Right. I mean, so but these drives are ridiculously far, right? So, get used to it. And the train is not I don't know from since you're living and working in Chile, I don't think that uh it's going to be anything different


From what you're used to. >> For us, like straight one side or straight, the other side, it will be thousand kilometers at least. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, here's some of the They have this like national park there where they have the um these kind of special water reservoirs that are


It's a big deal. They'll tell you about the baths and you can only you can't go into them. There's only a part of them that you can go into. But the mineral composition in these waters and everything is off, you know, it's it's off the charts weird. And the water is pristine. The water is pristine. So it's a national park, but um you'll go to see you can see the place where the apostles fought with the priests, the offite priests there and who were following Akidna and the exact


Place they fought in. You can see it. So you're not I um the myth about the area is that Akidna is functioning out of the caves. So if you went there, I would say you have to go off the do the touristy thing and see the site for what it is, but realize there's something in the caves. Uh I don't know, something for you to investigate maybe. Yeah. Well, but the thing like for you to know the mechanics, I will go there. >> I will not make the mistakes I did last


Year. I will know every kind of permit I need. If I want to go >> like if I want to go with a camera, can I make an interview? Can I, you know, I will do all of that. I have a month or so, like a month and 10 days to like be able to actually coordinate everything for after. So when I'm go to I do the touristic stuff but I know that is possible to go further with it especially with cameras and somebody will give you an interview that's not


Difficult and probably will be very uh you know superficial touristic um info. But anyways, that that's cool because we can make um parallels of how deep the the the the actual stuff that was going was happening there is and how superficially it is what you will get as a tourist. >> Yes. And you found that in the first time that you went. you know that there's one world to see and then underneath that there's something else that your tourists are not going to go >> um be involved in. Something about the mountains


Um with their caves in this region, right? This whole place is built up. I don't know if you can still see it, but the whole place is this is a sophisticated operation. This ancient city is no joke.


Okay? And it has temples, right? Those temples are dedicated to the akidna. Those are what the Christians are overturning. That's what they are trying to uh destroy. And there is described in the ancient text there is described the descendants


Of the priestess of the akidna herself. her descendants are there and the Christians wipe out all of them, right? And there it's has to do with chemical warfare. It's poisoning paralysis, right? People are up in arms because this is a this is a civilized locality. Rapless is this is, you know, [sighs and gasps] there's a lot of things going on on a large scale that you don't understand. >> Mhm. So, and not only that, but the drug trade, everything. This people talk about these areas of what is modern-day western


Turkey, and they don't realize that it wasn't just that the Greeks came in at a certain period and took over. You don't understand this is where Homer is from. This is where Heroditus is from, right? Right. >> You make yourself big. >> Mhm. >> Oh, can I make Oh, here. Let me stop sharing. Oh, let me stop shy.


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>> Get over here. Sorry. I am so >> Guys, for me, don't don't worry. Save for me. >> Boom. Look, if I start clicking, it just destroys it. Just take off the sharing and get me big.


So, there's two levels you're going to have to deal with there. The touristy level, and I want you to go see all of these buildings, and I want you to put it into perspective um that way through the tourist kind of thing. But I don't um but then there's something else going on in the background. Um, and that's where I think the caves,


All of the prophecy. Okay, I'm just going to tell you this. You're the researcher. You just have to do with it what you want. But the prophecy that the AIC priesthood is part of is coming from the caves and the language that's coming out of it is important. [gasps] So for example, media is herself giving


Prophecy from the she's doing that there in Dorian, right? So the Ahidic priesthood has got to be using the Dorian. What about in Turkey? What about in on the west coast of Turkey? Is are they using the Dorian there? Um is the cult taking the Dorian with it? Is it part of the cult practice to transplant their own music? And it's not language. It's not just language. It's music. when they're using the Greek ancient Greek language and you're talking about converting from Dorian to Ionian


>> Which are both both there in Turkey >> and that's exactly a question that I have here which it it means like when well we know like in music you have Ionian you have Dorian you have Aolian you have Friian you have um you Lorian and all these modes in music which >> when you're saying Dorian she's uh um she was um using Dorian


>> Ionian or friian. So >> um when we refer to this um um words or what are we referring to? It's like a location. It is a form of a language. >> Yeah. It's it's the sound. It's the sound the music that the Greek is making. So the difference between Greek and everything else in the region is that Greek is musical. Every other language is barbarian. They're non-m musical. So there are notes in the Greek. The Dorian notes are different. It's using a different I don't know what


You call it, a scale. It's using a different mode. Is that what they're calling them? Modes, right? which is all of them comes from the well a way that I understand it it's like everything comes from main one which it will be um ion


And you will take the ion and and and it will have um in in the notes that compose the ion scale uh it will have alterations. So if he has in the second note is like um for for example if he has like um like another interval it will become um another sca another mode which is not like a random >> each scale will have um two uh alterations to the ionian scale. So it is going to have a different sound all of I mean it is completely different if you play sound it will sound very what You might call now >> um Arabic


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You know it will sound completely different and you are just changing two notes in the Ionian major scale which is the ion like mode which is the major scale let's say >> okay so you just said exactly what's going on geograph graphically as well cuz they're using the Ionian, >> right? The Dorian is a is a change that changes and you would understand this the um mood the characteristic mood of the song. So when they are giving oracles in Dorian, it is because they're capitalizing on the whatever sound,


Whatever unique scale is being used. So your your your Dorian mode versus your Ionian, they sound different. >> Yes. >> In translation, my job. >> Okay. It comes across as the Ionian is intellectual


And the Dorian is emotional and brooding. It's brooding. Ionian is very rationally optimistic as a mode in the language. Ionian is very all of the scientific arts they're beginning with the Ionian. The Dorian is all songs of war and songs of mourning. You switch into this mode of it's it's like you're um mourning somebody's death.


>> Mhm. If you I mean what you're saying makes complete sense. I mean if we had now we will do it editing man. We will show the scales. If you if you if you um hear the Iun um which is the major scale, it's h is the happiest thing ever. >> Is it okay? >> If if you change um in the seven notes that it has, >> you change two of them uh it will become something different. And if you want to make it sound dorian,


>> It will have a sound which is has a um not absolutely sure but it has a minor third which it will give you a like a sound which is like more um sad but at the same time dorian will have a major six if I I'm not mistaken but whatever it doesn't matter about the intervals but that makes it sound like uh more sad but at the same time with a bit of optimist optimism you know it's like um really like Jimmyi Hendris will use it all the time that one he loved Mode


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And and if you go Eolian you'll have a minor scale but it will be like straight um more


Not happy. You know, if you go frigian, it will be completely some dissonant stuff that now we will say is like like an an Arabic flavor to it. You know, >> bak the friian the friian is described as bak. As a matter of fact, they some people have proposed that bachel is not Greek that it's originally friian. Um the the possessed worshippers of the great mother, right? That rhea it's the Greek Rehea. She's the Rya is the nurse of Bacus, right? um that friian greatmother ecstatic worship


That's bakic that kind of nurses bak worship um that's coupled with the music that you could say is it's almost you said dissonant I would say yeah dissonant and scattered >> and I when you say friian uh in this context I understand we're talking about the language and the We're actually uh saying that this is the way the language is spoke or it has to do more like in in a region kind of set up you know. >> No. Right. Just just exactly what you said. Here's the thing. You said there


Are seven uh notes. >> You're talking about the seven notes. The reason they've got the seven is because those are vowels. They've taken notes and turned them into vowels. All right? And these are canonical. And for some reason, they go on, I don't know why they go on about the heptic cord all the time. Hepticord, he hapticord. is where everything is is where so that they're big on that number seven to the extent that when we have the woman of revelation


Holding in her hand the seven stars, nobody is confused. Nobody's confused because everything we're doing when we speak, you asked when we speak. Everything we're doing when we speak is music. Everybody else is barbarian. When those [\\h__\\h] Thrians talk, it's barbarian. It is not melodic. There's no melody. And because of this, I just read this three or four days ago. Because of this, they say there's no harmony. The the music of the Greek language brings harmony. The barbarian


Languages have no harmony because they've got no music. So, um, it's a it's a phenomena that I think you may be able to find there cuz you're going to like if you go down the Ionian coast, you're going to see all the places you you're going to be surprised at the technical achievement. And I want you to keep in your mind while you're looking at this when you go to Pergamum too. when you go to Pergamum and you see the level of technical achievement because you're going to go


To the um temple of Eskeipius, right, which has its own library, which has its own tradition of being the best trauma surgeons of the entire Mediterranean. That's Pergamum. That's what they're known for. So, when you see that there, I think it's going to I want you to keep in your mind that it's coming from the language. there's something special that they're doing with the language >> and I don't know how you can flush that out. >> Yeah. I mean, we'll find a way. Well, but um this idea of the epaord, can you


Elaborate like in a nutshell? >> What have you found about this eptoord? What are they talking about? like the eptoord. What what this will >> the seven strings bring to you the perfect proportions.


Um that's how they're talking and the music of the cosmos. The cosmos is the organization of everything around you whether visible or invisible. It's like the master physics. The cosmos which is set in harmony


Can be expressed through that ratio through that which is how they're talking about the music all the time. um through that ratio that this heptic cord brings and it's the perfection and it it's it's supposed to be some sort of you know um the place that you go when you walk into a temple of Apollo and know that you're supposed to be recognizing who you are that like investigator of the cosmos somehow that Seven string


Instrument with its proportion is supposed to be able to >> Hello crew. Greetings from the road. I just wanted to communicate that we just opened our stones and serpents patron finers. We are now constantly uploading different audio visual materials. Some are free and some are not. We are sharing SNS behind the scenes, raw footage of the current Eastern expedition, official soundtracks, and even collections of future productions like shortcuts and documentaries. Finally, I would like also to encourage all of you to become a part of the explorer chat. It's free and gives us a good platform to engage in research.


Please feel free to scout the different modalities from free member to an explorer membership or territory explorer or even a pathfinder membership where we can co-produce and open a direct contact with the SNS production board to even create new projects and to do what we all love the most to explore new territories. We're an independent production company and this is part of our organic growth. So we deeply appreciate your support. Thank you all and again greetings from the crew. >> Amazing. I'm taking notes now. Not like Last time that


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>> We're getting everything. >> Don't No, here we'll be we got to stay in closer communication the whole time. Listen, um cuz this is fascinating what you're doing, by the way. So, I'm I'm grateful to be able to be a part of it and I hope that you're able to work with Athena too a lot. I hope you're able to um get that off the ground. I need to get you a translation of the acts of Philillip because in that it talks about the war with the echic


Priesthood and it'll give you clues. >> Mhm. >> Clues about the area. >> And would you say I'm on that that will be like um good um like that will be the mission? I mean I'm thinking about like we're going Turkey. I know that if you go mainstream information of course is related with everything we're recording for for the documentary. Uh but I I I was not completely sure about like right now for me is new that you are saying a kidna priesthood comes from from from from that side. So, so could you elaborate in that like um what it will be the a naked


Priesthood? Why can we um know that comes from some part or or or what the sources are are saying about it? >> Yeah. So in the acts of Phillip for example, Philip the apostle goes with Miriam and Bart Bartholomew another apostle apostle right and as they are what you think of as spreading the gospel they are spreading a mystery cult that runs right up against another


Already established mystery cult That mystery cult already has temples. They already have priesthoods associated with those temples. One of them has a priesthood with descendants of the Akidna herself


As citizens of the city. And they're also guardian. And they also police the city, but they very infamously use blood within their rights and they're known to be hostile. They're known to be hostile. They they have the same xenophobia. You're going to find this in the history of all the places you're going in Turkey, okay? They have a they have a history of xenophobia. If you go if you just go to the top of the Black Sea, you're no longer in Turkey, but you're up there in an area that is kind of uh it's where we're getting all


The Greek worship of Diana, who is Yosphoros, the dawnbringer. She's the Eio or Eio in in Attic, the one who pours the poison. So that worship of the cult mystery up on the Black Sea is connected with this just like I told you before this bakic great mother worship this ecstatic


Hunting it's human hunting when foreigners come to them they kill them Right? Um, and they don't just eat them, they use them in their ceremonies, right? They use their blood. Why? Now, remember, you think it sounds like these are savage people, right? Oh, God. These people, savages. No, they're the ones with the temples. They're the ones with the language that is music.


Yeah. So um the worship of Diana up north of Turkey in cross the Black Sea um in the Kerenise is the place that we're going to find the Greek is already there. So all I'm saying is all the places you're going in Turkey, don't think for a minute that they aren't speaking Greek. >> Mhm. Okay. >> And and if you even if you just see it like geographically, it makes sense that it will be uh that way. If you just see the Black Sea and the way shaped and how


It connects and kind of permeates like naturally even like just with the the sea itself is connected from from Black Sea and towards the actually the the Bosor is the same place that I'm I'm going to be staying. It's like a connection with the with the Mediterranean and um but I mean what just to keep going in that topic uh because I think um I didn't have it here in in in my outline but I think like it's important to go on it is like what is the akidna?


What is it? Yeah, she's the Okay. She is the Virgin Viper. She is the oracle that was visited by Hercules. And Hercules had a relationship with her that she forced upon him because she had taken his horses.


Right. Does it sound Does it sound familiar? Does it sound like Odysius a little bit? Right. Um, here's this woman who who is taking advantage of this big Greek hero. He can't leave her. She forces him to stay with her, right? Won't give him back his horses, right? And until he consummates, [clears throat] you know, a relationship with her. So, we have the same thing going on in the Odyssey. Um, if you just switch Cersei, it's the same individual, right? Um, because she's known for what she's


Known. I'm telling you there is a huge pharmaceutical industry that is rising in the late bronze age and it alone is responsible for the majority of the technical language that the Greek is spitting out. All of those sciences, all of those related little scientists and oh democrac That's all bubbling


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>> Out of this out of this particular cult. That's why I'm telling you the AIC cult is so important. She is the viper virgin, right? the Viper Virgin >> and um that so I had this idea of for all the conversations we we we've had in the past and also as I'm trying to understand all of this um um that seems to be this eastern uh influence kind of thing even Once we were talking about this and how this eastern stuff is coming um towards the the the [snorts] AGM let's say just to frame it in a geographical thing that we


Can understand and and >> um so would you say that all of this that we are talking because when you say the top of the Black Sea okay north but at the same time it seems to be like this eastern influence Um when we were talking about the great the cult of the great mother in like in another convers conversation we had. So


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What would you say about this? Um c can we say there is something that we can call call an uh an eastern influence on all of this Greek that we are having as sources now.


Yeah, definitely. It's uh eat my [\\h__\\h] Um Heracles is with his boys. We have initiates already through the boys. There's no reason for Heracles to be involved with the Viper Virgin. She is a minor. She's a youth.


She's somebody who's in the bloom, constantly in the bloom. That is what makes you immortal. That's why they call it ambrosia because the substance they're giving you is causing your bloom to never go away. >> It is Can I interrupt you just for a second? Just for a second. Uh uh so so when we say that it's like the knowledge of pharmarmacaya that they had uh they were able to actually like make some reaction on the body of the this this girl to correct extend that state.


>> Correct. It is a lifesaving


Product that comes from the Viper Virgin. This is a cult that has discovered for centuries has discovered the art of the venoms. So we have the venoms and we can create antivenenom. We can balance we can find a balance. Right? So they're doing that with her. We have an instrument now that's a pharmacological instrument.


And through that viper virgin, we have the communion that is life. That's why we eat her flesh and drink her blood. >> Mhm. So [snorts] when you say like eat my [\\h__\\h] you mean like um this was like when we see appearing this uh figure of the this um priesthood of of of women knowledge and these oracles. >> Yeah. >> What you mean by that? Uh >> yeah, you don't have the oracles >> eastern influence. >> Yes. You don't have the oracles without this influence. When the Akidna


Priestess who you're going to go see her place when the Akidna priestess is there in the east meeting the western Heracles with his temples where their mystery is with little boys. The chemistry that he's working on is all coming from the east. That's all he knows that. He knows that. That's why the only woman allowed into the mysteries of Heracles is media. The that's that's stated


That's stated late bronze age. The only one there she is media, right? So, um that a kid in a priestess is everything. She's the first Christ, >> right? This is an art that has figured out how to take a human and turn them into the expression of ambrosia to give you the medicine of life, right? You could even call it the water of life, right? And people in the cult would know because they had been initiated. They have seen the virgin. You realize that's what they're saying at Lucus.


They have seen the virgin rise. Okay. >> Do you understand? Why is it considered a bridal? Why is it considered a bridal festival? Why is it a wedding? What does this have to do? It's because that water of life is produced by her


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>> In. You're going to see you're going to see east and west when you go to Pamokula. You're going to see east and west coming together. >> Mhm. >> And >> just like a technical um question um when we say Asia and minor we are talking about geographically to like south of the this east or what do you mean like I always hear this this comes from Asia Minor. It's the same as it's coming from east, northeast,


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>> Southeast, >> [\\h__\\h] >> [\\h__\\h] Romans with their assaor. They're just grouping. They're just grouping like all of modern Turkey. They're grouping it together in one region. The part that is sticking out right into the sea, Black Sea, and into the the part of Asia. It's essentially the part of Asia that is sticking out into the Black Sea and into the Mediterranean, right? That that chunk of Greekeaking


Um land, right, along with others. Yes, there's other languages and whatnot, don't get me wrong. But that part, you know, when you talk about ancient Greece, you're talking about the western coast of Turkey. That is ancient Greece. I'm sorry. You're gonna notice. You're gonna walk up and down. You just see the temples. You already know. >> That's why that's actually why I wanted to address this the the the topic and actually this expedition we did now. I mean um thanks to the all the research we have been doing with you. Now we know


That you talk about ancient Greece, we of course already know that you're not talking about modern Greece. You're talking about a big area that uh is like um [clears throat] now modern Turkey will be a big part of it >> and and um well even um as I'm I'm taking notes of the all the conversations we are having and and and now we are heading towards that that part of the of the of the world. Um also like Cyprus came to to like has beer not I mean modern Cyp


Cyprus will be probably like part of ancient Greece also kind of thing cuz um >> def Oh are you kidding? Definitely. Yeah. No, right central. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. And it seems to be like um what I can relate with with and the relation that that I can do like quickly for what I've been hearing and and and researching is like Aphroditi is the idea of Aphroditi is very connected with it and c can you elaborate on on that part because we're talking about Asia minor for the role.


>> Yeah. Yeah. Right. Again. Yeah. Because Yeah. You think it's a is it Asia? Is it Europe? What is it? Okay. Um, the image that you should carry with you about Cyprus is that people would say that you could smell it before you could see it. Right? The the place where Aphrodite rules is fragrant. It smells


And the smell of the place makes people want to engage in intercourse, right? Sailors. This is where the sailors go to pay tribute to Aphrodite, right? This is the And don't think that you're talking about that western golden Aphrodite


Because this Aphrodite is in the neighborhood of those cultures that are Amazonian driven that they're influenced. I know they're north, but these cultures are influenced by that eastern um ecstatic again ecstatic


Mystery. >> So, so >> Aphrodite Aphrodite is part >> um not just part Aphrodite is the heart of that mystery. There is an Aphrodite who is a an conglomerate of that wild Bakic Friian mother. >> Okay. So >> and that golden western hang on and that golden western Aphrodite.


She is a combination of the two of those. And um >> combination of >> appreciating that will allow you to see why it is that sailors um in why it is that sailors require the fumigation as a medical practice and why it is that this Eastern Aphrodite insists that a woman at some time in her life um be free


To um engage in intercourse with nobody that she knows, just a random good-looking sailor dude. Um that that is a not a right but a a religious responsibility that a woman should do. Do you hear how that's Amazonian? You know, that's that doesn't sound like it sounds more cyian than it does Greek. That's what I mean when I say that east meeting that west. and and and yes that was like the so we can say that um let's say we're following um akidna


In in in treason it um so we're talking about pretty much the same [snorts] uh in in in different ways like we were just talking about akidna now I I mentioned to new Aphroditi and it seems to be like we are talking about the same tech cult


Probably a bit different from the north or the or mid [snorts] mid modern day Turkey or south or Cyprus which is south of Turkey u so we're talking about this same influence or or not influence or like practice knowledge that was happening all over that that what Romans will call minor or or we are talking about different stuff. >> Now we're talking again about the industry, >> right? Don't look don't look at the world as a fairy tale. Look at it as a practical place. Um I can't get my dick


Hard. What do I do in the civilization that you just saw with that incredible architecture? What do I do if I'm there and I can't get an erection? Right. I go to the priestess. What? And what is she going to give me? She's going to give me an afroiciac. She's going to give me an aphrodisiac. Right. That's how I know Aphrodite is from the drugs behind the cult


>> Is the industry. Okay. Okay. So, >> right. >> And the Ahidna is the one who leads everything. She is the great mother of us all. [\\h__\\h] you if you think otherwise. And if you're a stranger, we're going to kill you and we're going to eat you. Do you understand? That's why Heracles isn't even safe. He gets captured by the Amazonian queen. And what does she she do with him? What do you think? She turns him into a sex slave. Makes him dress like a woman. Turns her on.


[clears throat]


Right. Right. And he's the strongest guy there. Do you know why? Because this cult is driven by an industry that is capt. >> Can we say that he he was doing it willingly or just as a golden nugget? >> Yeah. >> He was lame. [laughter] book, >> you know, um technically I think it could be, you know, it's it's punishment. It's viewed as punishment for something that he did, right? Um the cosmos has a way of getting you back. The Greeks, the Greek speaking world harnessed this and turned it into this like court of justice, an invisible


Court of justice that they write about all the time that is run by these furies, right? And so part of his part of what he's doing is working off blood guilt is what they called it. And you'll notice there's these great descriptions of Cersei um causing


Pollution to be wiped out. It's a magical practice that only a soota can do, only a savior can do. And again, that word savior in the Greek is from the pharmaceutical industry, late bronze age. It's where all the tech is coming from. So, so in a way uh the questions I'm I'm I'm doing to you like okay this is in the south this is in the west this is in the north or whatever. So as as we follow the tech which will be the drugs you don't need to say south west or you


Will see like um what they have in common which is like the the use of this trucks I guess and um names are not that important or something like >> why because like in my obvious thought like kidna Aphroditi and and what will you say like is the same person is different this she's one is from the south is from another people this is another so but what what I'm getting is like okay dude they are like um engaging and connecting with the same with the same


>> And what will be the thing that they will gather them all even without even you know engaging In in between it will be this uh this drugs I guess.


>> How do you find the healing? It's a medical cult, right? How do you find the healing? It's the serpents on the staff, right? on the wrapping themselves around the implement of the physician, around the implement of the healer. How do you find the healing in this cult? Is it just sitting around, oh god, I had a crazy trip and I was on drugs and no, it's not not that at all. Um, the fact is there are actual products [sighs] from an industry. The goal is not to find the drugs that were used. Any


Anybody can do that. And that information has been there forever. It's not that. >> But when you say industry, >> it's the restatement. It's the it's the restarting of the most powerful


Healthbringing uh drug source that humanity has known of. It's the source that started medicine itself. It's that water of life. It's that water of life that comes from that [clears throat] ehnaic priestess. That's the discovery is the the actual tool that the industry is using. So it doesn't matter that we know all the drugs that they were involved with and all the the formula are all there. Right. Um, and if you read them properly, according to the Orphic Vox, you not only do the formula have the the formula has also the formula for the death inducer.


So >> industry, that's what you mean about industry. Yeah. >> Yeah. A bonus for us. We can do that. But the thing is, um, >> of course, that's not the focus. The focus is her. She's the cup, right? Um Her Hercules is doing the same thing with his with his voice. He's doing the same thing. He's got an instrument that's being used. So my um


My comment would be, hey, it's not about knowing how which drugs to use. It's about knowing how to tune the person to the point where they become the instrument. They become the cup. It is her blood, right? They are actually putting viper


Um bodies into their formuli, right? They're actually using the flesh, right? It's her blood that that virgin that is half virgin, half viper, right? It's her blood that is the product that gives us the life. So um remember we talked about on one side kills and the other side gives life. It's the difference between the venom right and the antivenenom. It's that same contrast between the thosimone the death inducer and it's the right. The thing that balances right so the thing that balances is not just the formula it's the girl. So you


Have to find her in Turkey. Good luck. Maybe she's hiding in the caves. Yeah. And um can we just switch? Well, I don't want to take like a This is like um >> Well, by the way, yesterday show that you did. >> Yeah. >> Enjoyed it a lot. >> Oh, you like the show is going like it's like a late late this is like a you know like a late show. put it on a big screen and share and you just laugh and watch. >> Very amazing.


>> Love it. >> I'm going to have to I'm I'm trying to teach myself a lot of music because I'm so behind. You know what I mean? So, I'm having to catch up. Okay. Ask me something that I need to answer. >> Let me close this. Okay. And uh so uh this is like


When in a conversation I not just one a couple of of them you have mentioned this place of the throne of Satan. Uh can you elaborate in because if if we say like the throne of Satan um well you will get the idea of a Christian idea or a Catholic idea or whatever. So what you mean that in Pergamum there is this throne of Satan?


What you mean? >> Yeah. What um what is a throne? First of all to you who is not in a cult it just means a chair that you sit on, right? To me who has I've been initiated,


Right? and not just in one but in several of the mysteries. And I know what a throne is because I use the same vocabulary. I have ears to hear, right? That that throne is the natural source


Of the God's voice. Okay, let me say that again. The throne is the natural source of the God's voice. When you are sitting on the throne, you are the vessel for the God. You hear the God's voice. Do you understand? The throne is the natural conduit.


For example, I as a mus can make for you a polythronic device, right? Many throned. I'm going to take many gateways of nature and put them together for you so that you can act. You can sit on that throne and hear the voice of God. Okay.


The um orphic vox that was auto kern discovered. It wasn't anybody else modern. Um the orphic vox is using is capturing that very um unheard language. So the drugs coming from the plants that are those gateways to the voice those can be tuned


In a polythronic compound. Do you understand? The throne of Satan is Pergamum.


It was in Pergamum that Galen learned the priesthood that is the healing art of the mystery, right? Galen was [\\h__\\h] manufacturing the the making it personally for Marcus Aurelius. The only reason that you have an arch physician, if you are a Roman emperor, the only reason you have an arch physician is to get access to the drugs. The drugs that are part of the same industry that has been running everything from the Bronze Age through medicine, through art. You talk about the [\\h__\\h] modern idiots from the Knights Templar and the goddamn what are they called? Not


Solommites. Oh, with the trying Masons. The Masons, right? And a [\\h__\\h] That is nothing. Those are little boys clubs. Compared to the reality of an industry that is religious that runs everything, the oracles are only there because they are agents of the industry.


Right? It is a chemical religion and it is what brought us salvation and the gospel. It's what b brought us Christing. Um it's what brought us ionic life >> and and and and why I'm is like it's not the throne and this is like specific throne of this specific


Satan. >> Yeah. >> The um the throne of Satan will be the coral opening. When you get enough of these sources together, you have a chorus. All right, we have the references to the Bocket Chorus and what it does. This is not new tech. Now, again, it's just tech. In order to regenerate the mystery, you have to have that pocket chorus. You have to have the assembling of a group of of a group of um


Singers who become vessels of God. Do you know how to make a boy a vessel of God? Right? That's what the disciples are Jesus is creating. He's doing he's using the same physics right of the maros. is using the very same physics. And this physics is coming out of that Amazonian


Womandriven science that is crushing down on the Ionian language and that it's having to absorb and the Dorian is defending it. Pergamum is the center. Pergamum is the place where all of that tension of the history with the language and with the art and the industry coming together forges that healing that is from Pergamum


That civilization produces the center of the world's healing that's why and it's eastern it is not western >> right it is coming through that Amazonian cyian drug magic the Christing is itself coming through that drug magic and it's all industry all right it's all that's where the technology the language spe the specific language is coming from that industry so the religion is the is the driving force of the oracles it's pushing us toward democracy See


>> Amazing and and and why do we choose the word Satan to to to to related with it? The word is >> because because the create the creation of the bonet chorus which is the function of the mystery is Satnian. It is Satnian. It's the whole mission of the golden age. I mean, even the Romans celebrate this whole boy's chorus and the whole rising of the sun. My god, man. Bringingers of dawn extraordinaire.


And it is all over the place. Why? Because of this bronze age industry, this mystery. And this is a woman's tech. It's a it's a female developed tech that males were able to take over and change alter and hence we've got Jesus with his children. I'm sorry but that Kora


Is a that virgin that we keep talking about is a virgin of somebody who is blooming. Their body is blooming. Right? How is media described in in in Gas Valerius Flackis's Argonautica and he he has access to the sibling books


Not the things you call the oracles the sibling books he's got them and he's one of the guardians and he's the one who's pointing out what is her age when she is the woman who has to rescue the world right how old is she it says she's not quite ready for marriage but just on the cusp of it so what 12, 13, right?


[clears throat]


Affected by the drugs in a way that she is more fierce than anyone around. Using the drugs in a way that make her the complete you can't get away with [\\h__\\h] She's going to take Hercules, who's all muscle, she's going to take him down just like these other women are doing. That's the East. That's part of what I think Junius is trying to resurrect. Absolutely. Amazing album.


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