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Thank you. I'm almost out. To keep going like Um before It was a perfect timing but I'm going to try to get it again. >> [music] >> When we talk about we skipped a bit about the mother cult and that came
To after when after 800 BC I guess it is like when we can have the records about it and even Roman times um What what is this great mother cult? Can you talk talk about us a bit of the great mother cult and what is the connection with this um with the with your book actually? I guess that was the first time I I I heard about this idea of the unique of the hermaphrodites [clears throat] and she-male gods and and all of that. So, can you talk about us um
A bit of of that? Can you elaborate on this mother cult and this idea? Yes, and it's a big deal. And how do we know the mother cult from antiquity? You know, cuz I could just be making Jack up. You'd never know. How can you go check on all of this? It's from the ancient sources themselves. The Greek and Latin speaking world that encountered the mother cult. We can go back and we can read what you know, silly Romans said, right? Oh God, they have their sensibilities. You know,
We're talking about you can look at authors like Apuleius, Lucian. You can see how did they refer to this kind of eastern
Cult from Asia Minor that kind of infiltrates the Mediterranean. And by the 1st century they are the Romans are you know, crazy about the great mother, Magna Mater. What are you talking about, man? Magna Mater is everything. Who is she? So, look, what do we do? We look at what they did when they watched the people performing the rites of the great mother. And what it is is it's a lot of magic
A lot of testicles getting ripped off and a whole bunch of stories illustrations of the great mother cutting off the private parts of her devotee, her child. She's raising the child and shh, don't tell anyone cuz it's kind of not so good today, right? But this is the the cult of a beautiful
Goddess creator who initiates we people, we mortals into a state of immortality. And she does that through the child, the boy who is coming into his sexual maturity.
She has a direct sexual relationship. Now, this is going to blow your mind cuz you would think, oh God, let's not talk about great mother and sex in the same same breath or else we're going to be Oedipus. Good God. Right? Um that tension is part of the tension that the Greeks and the Romans both kind of expressed, not kind of both expressed.
There is a closeness. There is a a change in perspective that creates an intimacy. So, we're looking at a religion a performance that is taking place between the mother and the sexually
It's process of education and it's process of bringing the child to the adult immortality. There's risk involved in all of this, right? And you can lose the person. The lover of the great mother can be lost to the nymph. And you say, what what what the hell are these people talking about when you consider what the cult actually does that the Romans and Greeks report to us. When you see that the young boys who were joining the religion, they don't go to communion like you do in Catholic.
They don't go through the steps of who-ha and genuflection. No, they have to publicly cut off their testicles and begin to dress like women in order to maintain that sacred relationship with the great mother. And you would be smart to listen to them because they have a form of communication that is only possible through the unique. Right? You're not a unique. Right? You weren't You didn't have your You have your testicles, right? I still still yeah, still. Okay. You've had them all your life, right? And they've developed who you are.
But you would have a different ability if at 10 years old you and I went to the temple and you got caught up in the caught up in the festival, the holy day, right? You see, the holy day is not when we go eat and sing Merry Christmas to each other. The holy day is when the whole town gets together. We burn these massive drugs in these massive heaps and we all get incubate We all in enter infused, excuse me, we get infused with the power of the goddess and then some of us come forward and cut off our
Testicles. That gives us a form of vision that you and I don't have. Right? You don't understand who the great mother is because your private parts are blocking you from understanding her. So, this kind of wisdom, what it ultimately is and the Romans recognize this. It was providing society with a very disciplined form of respect
For that female maternal ideal. And I want Do do do we have some accounts about this this situations that you are talking about that you we can go around quickly? If If we didn't have any accounts, I wouldn't be able to say that. The best one The best one is in Lucian's Dea Dea Syria, On the Syrian Goddess. Oh, it's horribly written and it's terrible. It's supposed to be Ionian, like heavily Ionian with Dorian influ- God, it's awfully written. Lucian does it on purpose because he's mimicking
Dialects, right? He's just a good writer and that's what he does. But if you get beyond that to the content of the Syrian Goddess, it's called by Lucian, he has a very distinct description down of the boys cutting off their testicles. I mean, cuz that's really what matters, right? All the mythology and all the story None of that matters. What matters is the people are going forward in order to gain an access of a vision to a woman, a mother and they are cutting off their balls to do that.
Voluntarily, willfully and then joining her priesthood so that they can dress like her, they can look like her, they can feel like her. And society reacts. And Lucian, when the kid cuts off his testicles, he he's com- he has to do this. He picks one of the houses in the area. Maybe it's with one of his school chums. Throws his testicles into the house. They splatter against the door, right? Whatever door gets those testicles hit, right? The person comes out and knocks and there's balls on their door. They
Know already. They know already they have to take a complete kit, a woman's kit that is female dress complete set of female dress and give it to him so that he can enter into their society and he can he can have that feminine understanding. All of that through a sexual relationship with mom. Do you understand? Oh God. Yeah, oh God.